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[Don Y]

Segin wrote:
> Don Y wrote:
>> Segin wrote:
>>
>>> I wouldn't say "emotionally attached" myself, since I exibit no 
>>> emotional response to... well, anything! I like old hardware, mainly 
>>> cause it's more dependable than today's workstations and desktops. 
>>> Why? Because companies actually put thought into creating parts that 
>>> were durable back then. Compare it to cars (my favorite analogy 
>>> against computers), A 1969 Ford Mustang is usually more durable, 
>>> dependable, and will survive a crash with substantally less damage 
>>> than, say, a 2005 Kia Optima or Saab xB.
>>
>> Sure.  But the PASSENGERS will have substantially MORE damage than
>> those in that 2005 vehicle...
> They're only humans. We got 6 and a half billion on this planet, losing 
> one or two doesn't really make a difference.

And how many *computers* do we have?  Losing one or two doesn't
really make a difference...  :>

>> Don't confuse consumer "peecees" with other modern machines.
>> (what's the MTBF on that 15 year old disk drive from your 386sx??)
> Dunno. Good guess would be about 9 years, or 85,000 hours.
> 
> But that's if it's in constant use. This box was found at a old job 
> site. I remember booting it once, only to find it still has NetWare/DOS 
> and Windows 3.11 installed, so I am assuming that it sat around in a 
> corner, doing absolutely nothing for about 11 years.

And a modern drive has an MTBF of, what, 500,000 to 1,000,000 hours?!
:>

> And yes, I know what a MTBF is. It's Mean Time Before Failure. And no, I 
> didn't need to use Google to find that out.

Actually, it's *Between* failures.

> Please stop trying to belittle me, I get enough of it from the local 
> LUG. If I wanted to be trolled, I'd go post on USENET.

*I'm* not trying to "belittle" you.  I'm just pointing out the
holes in your argument.  If you chose to dismiss them with
flippant "one or two doesn't make a difference" comments, then
I guess you don't particularly care about your own claims?

Seems like you're the one doing the trolling...  :>