Scanning Formats (TIFF vs. JPEG)
mcguire at neurotica.com
Wed Aug 23 09:30:30 CDT 2006
On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:49 PM, Alexey Toptygin wrote:
>>> So what you're saying is that VMS is more widely deployed than
>>> systems that _were_ compromised at defcon 9? More than Win32,
>>> Solaris, Linux, *BSD? And where are these millions of VMS
>>> deployments? I'm the secretary of a DC metro area system
>>> administrators group (>300 members), and I've only heard of one VMS
>>> system in the DC area mentioned in our group over the 5+ years I've
>>> been a member. They were migrating off of it.
>>> I'm not saying there aren't VMS deployments, but I think you're
>>> saying they're comprably common to Windows, Mac or UNIX and
>>> everything I know tells me that is wrong.
>> Sigh. I didn't say anything other than what I typed above. The
>> world is full of misguided and/or clueless people who think VMS is
>> "old", "dead", "legacy" or some other such nonsense, while in fact it
>> is extremely widely used...just not in places that we hear about
>> every day.
> OK, now I think you're being unreasonable. Who, pray tell, has these
> vast secret VMS installations that we don't hear about? Show me the
They're Alphas, actually. Talk to Eric Dittman
<dittman at dittman.net>. He manages dozens of them, and works in an
industry populated almost entirely of them. He used to be on this
list, but he unsubscribed because of misinformed (but vehement) people
such as yourself. In fact, I'm beginning to think you're actually Dick
Erlacher operating under a different name.
> I don't think it's fair for you to make this claim. There are millions
> of known Windows, Mac and UNIX internet-facing computers that are
> under attack every day. There are significantly fewer VAXen (100 times
> fewer? 1000? 10000 wouldn't surprise me), which are attacked
> significantly less frequently.
The majority of production VMS machines today are Alphas, not VAXen.
Do your homework before YOU start making grandiose claims.
Cape Coral, FL
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