LCD TV's with Home computers
feedle at feedle.net
Sun Oct 22 23:11:27 CDT 2006
On Oct 22, 2006, at 4:39 AM, roger pugh wrote:
> Does anyone have any experience running home computers, Commodores,
> Sinclair's, Apple II's and the like on one of these modern LCD
> TV's. Can they lock on to the cheap modulator signals or work with
> the composite or RGB.
> I'm thinking of getting rid of a bulky tv set and various rgb and
> black and white monitors and use a modern solution.
For the most part, if you purchase a TV that has a "composite" video
input (you can identify this by the one [yellow] plug for video and
the two plugs [white and red] for audio), you should have no problem
using a composite video cable from a Commodore 64.. that is, a cable
that plugs in to the multi-pin DIN connector (if I remember right,
the 64 used an 8-pin connector that was similar to the VIC-20 and
Atari 800 5-pin connector, with extra signals [if memory serves, some
kind of pre-SVideo Y/C kind of thing that only Commodore's monitors
On the Apple ][ series, you should be able to take the 40-column
video out and run it directly to the same yellow composite video
As far as RF modulated video goes, if it'll tune Channel 3 analog, it
should have no problems. My HDTV set's built in analog tuner can
handle just about everything I've ever plugged into it just fine.
Note that I've casually observed that a lot of older hardware has
varying quality of the RF output... I have an Atari Video Music box
where the RF out appears to be soft, and I had to purchase an analog
video amplifier. Note that this even breaks on a $80 Toshiba 13"
NTSC glass tube set as well, so it's not just a "modern set problem."
RGB video, like the kind used on the Apple //gs and the Commodore
128, is another issue entirely. You're not going to get it working
on any TV without some work (I know the C128's RGB port would be
particularly nasty). You're not going to get rid of the dedicated
monitors for these machines. I keep a CBM 1084S monitor around just
for this purpose.
It is also worth noting that a lot of stuff out there uses old
"analog" composite video. Check the toy department.. there's lots of
emulated (and in the case of the Atari 2600, hackable to even run the
original cartridges) classic and 16-bit era console game hardware
that uses the same connectors.
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