compoobah at valleyimplants.com
Mon Apr 30 18:55:17 CDT 2007
> It's still commercial software, and it's still possible to buy
> I assume you're looking at mentec.com, that hasn't been the place to
> look for several years.
mentec-inc used to be the place for the commercial stuff, but it seems
to be no longer around.
My question, however, was regarding the non-commercial PDP-11 stuff. At
this point, I'm not interested in the commercial stuff- it just isn't
worth it. (before you grab the torches and pitchforks I don't find
Windows "worth it" enough to walk across campus and pick up the
all-but-free disks either). I was looking into emulators (never touched
the VAX's little brother or O/S SW yet), and came across some disk
images with the following licensing:
"Whereas, MENTEC owns the rights to the following PDP-11 Operating
Systems and associated layered products (RT-11 V5.3 or prior, RSTS/E
V9.6 or prior, RSX-11M V4.3 or prior, RSX-11M PLUS V3.0 or prior)
(SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY) and is prepared to grant a non-exclusive license
to use such
SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY for personal, non-commercial purposes;"
"SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY shall mean the binary versions of the PDP-11
Operating Systems (RT-11 V5.3 or prior, RSTS/E V9.6 or prior, RSX-11M
V4.3 or prior, RSX-11M PLUS V3.0 or prior), and associated utilities
and layered products that run on PDP-11 computers.
but somewhat cryptically also
"EMULATOR shall mean software owned by Digital Equipment Corporation
that emulates the operation of a PDP-11 processor and allows PDP-11
programs and operating systems to run on non-PDP-11 systems.
2 LICENSE GRANT
MENTEC grants to CUSTOMER a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free
license under MENTEC's INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS to use and copy the
SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY solely for personal, non-commercial uses in
conjunction with the EMULATOR."
So, in short, is this only valid for emulators in which DEC or it's
successors in interest (HP?) own the copyright, or is it only valid for
systems where DEC or (...) hold RTU licenses for a PDP-11 emulator on?
If the prior, what is the connection to SIMH? If it is valid for
currently obtainable emulators and (as it seems to at face value)
include RSX-11, why no RSX-11 images? I suppose RSTS/E is the easy way
out, (provided licensing is good), but RSX-11 has the advantages of
some commonality with VMS (DCL).
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