Arty computers
Jim Leonard
trixter at oldskool.org
Sun Feb 4 16:25:28 CST 2007
Chuck Guzis wrote:
>> Okay, just making sure. On 486, it was break-even; on Pentium, it was
>> indeed faster for most cases to pair instructions. (Although, if you
>> wanted to get fancy, you could copy memory even faster by loading 64
>> bits at a time into the FPU registers, then storing them out...)
>
> Yeah, but then you wouldn't have code that would run on *any* x86.
True, but you wouldn't want to do the mov; dec; mov; jnz on anything
less than a 386, it's way too slow compared to rep movs.
> To be fair, however, in a bunch of my code, I did have a routine that
> started out:
>
> mov Is_x86,0 ; assume neither 286 nor 386
> push sp
> pop ax
> cmp ax,sp ; see if the same
> jne Init2 ; if not 2/386
> inc Is_x86 ; it's at least a 286
> .486
> sgdt scratch ; stash the GDT
> .8086
> mov al,byte ptr scratch+5
> test al,al
> jnz Init2
> inc Is_x86 ; at least a 386
> Init2:
>
> so I could make use of those 32 bit registers for moving data around
> and calculating CRCs and such.
Hey, that's neat... I've never seen that technique (global descriptor
table) before. I used to check if pushf/popf preserved the Alignment
Check bit (386=no, 486=yes).
> That's one of the awful inequities of "improved" CPUs; something like
> processor social economics. A trick used to exploit a faster CPU
> will often run more slowly on the lower CPU than if you had left in
> the non-tricky code. So the folks with older CPUs sometimes get
> penalized additionally through no fault of their own.
As someone whose only computer was a 7MHz 8086 from 1985 to 1991, I was
able to experience this firsthand. I later replaced with an NEC V30 so
that "286" programs would work (99% of the time, the only "286" thing
about a program was SHR/SHL/ROR/ROL by an operand greater than 1, which
the NEC V30 could do) but they certainly didn't work well.
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