Network question
Tom Peters
tpeters at mixcom.com
Mon Jan 1 11:31:25 CST 2007
At 08:29 PM 12/31/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>You wrote...
>>Just trying to figure out why a 2 GHz box is getting consistently
>>beaten by a 225 MHz one.
>
>This sounds like the classic problem of a duplex mismatch between the
>device and the hub. A lot of folks don't realize it, but when you mix
>10mb/HDX/100mb/FDX devices in a single network - you would THINK that the
>devices would autonegotiate identical settings on both ends. C'mon, they
>even SAY they autonegotiate on the box, and they DO have an 'auto'
>setting, right? Fact is, they get it wrong better than 80% of the time.
>Even two devices from the same manufacturer usually don't autonegotiate
>right. Pretend that "autonegotiation" doesn't exist. Set both ends
>manually to identical settings. If one
>
>Some will say - this can't be... I plug them in and they work, and the
>right speed lights come on! And they pass traffic JUST fine. Don't trust
>this. FDX/HDX mismatches can create very odd looking wierdness. Like a
>connection that SEEMS to work, but is actually working very poorly.
Yeah, I can attest. We used to have one particular run of 3Com cards that
negotiated the wrong duplex about 25% of the time when used with one
particular kind of 10/100 blade in a Cisco Catalyst 5000 series switch. The
symptoms were that the connection would work ok, and ping tests seemed to
indicate all was well, but as you loaded the connection down a little, it
would start having errors and retries, until the retries overwhelmed any
real work being done.
Any time someone reported a good connection that would hang, timeout, and
quit with errors whenever you tried to copy a file over it (larger than a
few k) I know what the problem was.
A firmware upgrade fixed some of it. Policy fixed the rest: Thou shalt set
the speed and duplex we tell you to on your PC, or we'll disable your port.
No Auto/Auto permitted. Better gear and Corporate Standard NICs eliminated
the problem after a while.
[Computing] The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should,
therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence. --E.W.Dijkstra, 18th
June 1975.
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