The Unix Haters' Handbook

der Mouse mouse at Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA
Tue Apr 8 10:17:55 CDT 2008


>> I do.  But then, I wrote both the tar implementation I use and its
>> manpage, so perhaps that's cheating. :)  (Actually, the manpage is
>> somewhat out of date; I doubt I've updated it since the last round
>> of changes to the code....)
> I think you started out trying to prove a point, but you proved
> another.

Perhaps.  I saw my point as being that yes, there is a <tar,user> pair
where the user thoroughly understands the tar.  If your point was that
documentation is inaccurate, then I supported that too.

> Is that what they call an "own goal"?

Perhaps, if I were trying to take a stance on some issue, which I
didn't think I was - I thought I was offering a data point to indicate
that the situation of users understanding tar was not *quite* as bleak
as it was painted.  (I suppose this could be taken as taking a stance
on the presence of users who grok the tars they use, but in that case I
see no grounds for calling it an own goal....)

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