The Unix Haters' Handbook
John Floren
slawmaster at gmail.com
Mon Apr 7 13:37:19 CDT 2008
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote:
> John Floren wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > That's bull. There are ways to make grep output something like "No
> > > matches" without breaking a pipeline that uses it. I suggest that
> > > perhaps those who say "They're the kind of thing people who don't
> > > use or understand pipes will say." are the ones who truly don't
> > > understand pipes.
> > >
> >
> >
> > No news is good news. Sure, you could make grep blather all over stderr or
> something, but why? If you don't get any errors, the
> > program completed correctly. If you screwed up the syntax or
> > specified a nonexistent file, you get an error. However, since GNU
> > tools are so utterly goddamn broken, this may or may not be the case
> > on any given tool. Try Plan 9 some time and you'll have a lovely
> > experience... for example, see
> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/1/cat for the proper way to
> > implement cat.
> >
>
> I've played with Plan 9, and it's a definite improvement over UNIX,
> especially in areas of consistency, but both seem to be more
> programmer-oriented than user-oriented.
>
> Peace... Sridhar
>
Well, programmers are the only ones that matter, right? ;)
John
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