Bob Brown bbrown at harpercollege.edu
Wed Nov 26 13:27:58 CST 2008

It is possible to find 3000's out there..just not as many of them.
There are still a lot of shops running them and with HP no longer
marketing them, shops running them are often picking up spare systems
and parts just in case.

I don't think OS licensing is much of an issue..I believe that the OS is
licensed to the hardware, so it can move with the hardware.  Pricewise,
3000's often cost many times what the equivalent 9000 would cost, even
though the hardware in the later systems is identical..just a little
switch in firmware telling the box to be either a 3000 or a 9000.


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-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:28 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: HP3000

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM, William Donzelli <wdonzelli at gmail.com>
>>    Between 1986 and 1988, I worked on a whole slew of HP3000s, from 
>> the Series III to the Series 70.  They were popular in the business 
>> environment, especially in COBOL shops.  Where did they end up?  You 
>> can find loads of DEC equipment on Ebay, even IBM System 34, 36 and 
>> AS/400s, the occasional HP1000, but the only HP3000 I recall seeing 
>> in recent years was a single Model 37.
> You answered your own question.
> DEC made loads of minis (PDP and VAX).
> IBM made loads of minis (S/34 and S/36).
> IBM made extra sized loads of AS/400 minis (more than any other
> HP did not make loads of 3000s.
> I think it is a simple population thing.
> --
> Will

I subscribe to the 3000 mailing list, and there seems to be one other
complaint... licensing the OS.  I am no expert on the matter, but I've
gotten the impression that HP can be a real bear to deal with when it
comes to licensing the OS for users.  It simply can get too expensive
for a hobbyist to run MPE...

Trust me, I'd love to have a small 3000 at home and if one ever shows
up, I'll snap it up if I can.  They just seem to be pretty rare on the
used market.


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