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Wed Jun 10 12:45:57 CDT 2009
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:02 AM, William Donzelli<wdonzelli at gmail.com> wrote:
>> This attitude is common even here, amongst people who presumably should
>> know better.
> The finger points to me?
>> Just because VMS was around thirty years ago, that means it's
>> a thirty-year-old OS. "Wow, I can't believe we're still using cars.
>> They're so old! Since there were cars in 1908, that means ALL cars are
>> from 1908!"
> I never said VMS is dead - if I did, please point it out and
> acknowledge. I did say VMS is a "sinking ship". Not only is the market
> share tiny and shrinking, but its installation base (number of
> machines running VMS in production) is also shrinking. There are
> pretty much no new VMS customers. VMS is speeding along to being
> And yes, OS/400, VM, MVS (yes, keeping the old names here) are also
> sinking ships for much the same reason, although they are still viable
> products. Yes, they are important, and are still cutting edge, but the
> truth is still that there will be a day in the future when these OSes
> are in the same league as MCP or TOPS-20. Hopefully that day will be
> long off.
> Here is a challenge to the whole list membership. Lots of folks here
> are well embedded into the industry, so I think this is a good sample.
> Try to think of as many new customers (not upgrades) for the following
> OSes (again, keeping the old names): AOS/VS, MCP, TOPS-10, TOPS-20,
> OS/2200, VM, MVS, VSE, OS/400, Multics, PrimOS. Lets keep this to year
> 2009. I bet we can not even get to twenty.
At this point, Multics does not run anywhere in the world and, to my
knowledge, nobody even has the hardware to run it... well, CHM has
DOCKMASTER, but can that still run?
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