Windows for critical infrastructure (was Re: UNIX V7)
derschjo at mail.msu.edu
Wed Jun 10 16:29:09 CDT 2009
Can we please -not- have this conversation again? We just had one
last month and it has just as little to do with classic computing as
it did then.
On Jun 10, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Eric Smith <eric at brouhaha.com> wrote:
> Dave McGuire wrote:
>> Do these people really believe PCs running Windows process their
>> bank transactions, maintain hospital databases, or run railroads?
> Unfortunately there actually ARE hospitals using Windows servers for
> their critical infrastructure. I've seen them, and I've seen what
> happens when they blue-screen.
> I've heard stories about banks that have migrated their transaction
> processing from IBM mainframes to Windows, but they may just be
> I have no idea what railroads are using.
> The US Navy at one point was switching from Unix to Windows. They
> had major problems with this on the USS Yorktown, and had to tow it
> back to port. I don't know whether they've completed the switch.
> "We are putting equipment in the engine room that we cannot
> and, when it fails, results in a critical failure"
> -- Anthony DiGiorgio, civilian engineer with the Atlantic
> Technical Support Center in Norfolk
> "Although Unix is more reliable, NT may become more reliable
> with time."
> -- Ron Redman, deputy director of the Fleet Introduction
> of the Aegis Program Executive Office
> Redman said that NT had been chosen for political rather than
> technical reasons. Where's the line between stupidity and treason?
> It's been more recently reported that the British Royal Navy is
> using Windows to run their nuclear submarines.
> One of the best reasons not to use Windows for critical
> infrastructure has nothing to do with flaws in Windows. Over and
> over again I've seen people have failures of Windows-based systems
> that were intended to serve a single purpose, such as control the
> HVAC systems for a large building, because some damn fool thought it
> would be a good idea to install a bunch of extra software on them,
> including games, and various random software downloaded from the
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