the grumpiness of old age [was RE: the arrogance of youth [was RE: UNIX V7]]

John Floren slawmaster at
Fri Jun 12 23:05:26 CDT 2009

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Kirn Gill<segin2005 at> wrote:
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> John Floren wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Rich Alderson<RichA at>
>> wrote:
>>>> From: John Floren Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:26 PM Forgive
>>>>  us all for not knowing the deep dark super secret secrets of
>>>> the super secret TOPS-20 society. If only I had known the
>>>> unpublished unspoken truth I could have avoided asking for
>>>> clarification, such an ass I am.
>>> John, I apologize.  I was a horse's arse in my previous response.
>>> Since there was a discussion of the XKL Toad-1 in the last few
>>> weeks, and I posted explicitly as a former XKL employee, I took
>>> it on faith that if I stated something about the internals of a
>>> piece of hardware developed by that company, I'd be given the
>>> benefit of the doubt.
>>> I wasn't, and it irritated me out of all proportion.
>>> Again, my apologies.
>>> Rich Alderson ex-Customer Advocacy, XKL LLC
>> No sweat... well actually I just got back from the gym so there's a
>>  lot of sweat, but you get the drift. I'm so used to the Internet
>> that the idea of someone apologizing blows me away :) I in turn am
>> sorry for making the kinda jerkish reply--I hadn't seen the thread
>> about the Toad-1, so I didn't get the connection.
>> It's pretty cool to hear that TOPS-20 is still out there. Is it the
>>  kind of thing where you can just hit the OS through a serial port,
>>  or is it all tucked away carefully behind a lot of special user
>> interface? I like the OS, but Plan 9 keeps me busy... too bad that
>>  either way I couldn't afford one of those boxes.
>> John
> has TOPS-20 shells, I think I still have my account.

I have/had an account, but it's just not the same if you don't have
real hardware on your desk/in the closet/in the garage. ;)

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