Hardware Hobbyists vs. Emulator Jockeys (was: Re: UNIX V7)

Roger Holmes roger.holmes at microspot.co.uk
Tue Jun 16 04:17:58 CDT 2009

> From: Warren Wolfe <lists at databasics.us>
On 15 Jun 2009, at 22:58, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:

> It's just a matter of degree.  I suspect there were very many more  
> valve
> radios produced than classic computers, probably a couple orders of
> magnitude.

Yes, there were only around 150 to 200 of my classic computer made.

Imagine the labour in manufacturing 4000+ PCBs with getting on for a  
hundred hand soldered joints on each. Then wire them all together, add  
a dozen heavy machines driven by 3/4 horsepower motors, a few hundred  
power supplies, a few hundred light bulbs, a few hundred cold cathode  
indicator displays, a dozen control panels, three phase fuse boxes and  
power filters, a hundred thousand ferrite washers hand threaded with  
six enamelled wires and the battleship grade frames holding it all and  
then add on about 60 jacks to support it and over a hundred castors to  
allow it to be installed or moved. No wonder they cost about a quarter  
of a million new in 1962.

>  However, even those will be, for all practical purposes,
> gone in time.  While it won't have any effect on you or me, run the
> clock ahead a hundred years...  and very little of either will remain.
>> I guess if you want a particular model of classic computer you are  
>> going
>> to have problems finding it, but there seem to be plenty of  
>> classics out
>> there at the momnet if you'll work on just about anything.
> True...  but, even WAY old classic computers are less than 50 years
> old.  I mean, is there even someone out there with an IBM 360?

My machine was killed off by the introduction of the 360, i.e. its  
The ICT1301 was announced 1959 and my one (the first to leave the  
factory) was shipped in 1962.
The IBM 360 was I understand announced in 1965, probably shipped quite  
soon after.

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