Surplus waves

Zane H. Healy healyzh at aracnet.com
Tue Jun 23 12:57:46 CDT 2009



On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Richard wrote:

> Has anyone else noticed that there are "waves" of certain kinds of
> equipment being surplussed all at once?
>
> Its most readily apparent when monitoring govliquidation.com because
> the military tends to surplus an item across and entire force (Navy,
> Air Force, Army, etc.) and scads of the stuff shows up all at once.
>
> However, I see it as well in commercial circles.  A new generation of
> technology is deployed and an entire wave of the old technology is
> surplussed all at once.  After that big wave subsides, those items
> will be hard to find.
>
> I think these surplus waves are what people are remembering when they say
> "VT100s are all over the place, dirt cheap" because they remember the
> VT100 surplus wave when you could barely walk through a surplus house
> without tripping over one.  Nowadays they are few and far between.
>
> I seem to recall some discussions of "ownership humps" over the
> lifetime of equipment.  Initially noone, or few, owns it.  Then lots
> of people own it.  Then some people own it because lots of people surplus
> it and there's a glut in the secondary market.  Then noone, or few,
> owns it again and the secondary market is pricey for spares.  Then
> noone owns it anymore and the secondary market is overpriced, still
> thinking people need spares.  Eventually the secondary market crashes
> and they dump their holdings and collectors might be able to
> experience a slight secondary surplus wave.  After that, its hen's
> teeth time.
>
> Thoughts?

I suspect you're definitely on to something, at least with regards to modern
equipment.  I know that now days where I work, once it's off warrenty, it's
time to start thinking about replacing it.  Of course everything runs on
EM64T based servers now as well, except for a few legacy applications. 
Reliability seems to have gone down a lot as well.  We often see stuff dying
in waves once it reaches a certain age.

You did fail to mention one *KEY* factor, and that is Geography.  As near as
I can tell around here PDT-11's have always been rare as hens teeth, the
same is not true for around what was DEC country (the Mill, etc.).

Zane





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