apple Lisa2. Any advice on non-working floppy drives?

terry stewart terry at webweavers.co.nz
Fri Dec 10 15:45:44 CST 2010


Not with this Lisa 2/10 Geoff.  The I/O board is different from the two 
earlier Lisa's I've got, and it's the I/O board that has the fault.  And 
I've only got one widget drive.

Terry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "geoffrey oltmans" <oltmansg at bellsouth.net>
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> It'd probably go a lot faster if you swapped some boards from one to the 
> other.
> ;)
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> From: terry stewart <terry at webweavers.co.nz>
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> Sent: Fri, December 10, 2010 2:26:33 PM
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> Interesting.  It's amazing the gadgets enthuisasts have developed.
>
> I'll wait until I get some software and get at least one Lisa booting 
> before
> worrying about the keyboard.  I think this Lisa restoration is going to be
> one for the long haul.
>
> Terry
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tony Duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
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> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 7:53 AM
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>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
>>> wrote=
>>> :
>>> >
>>> > I think this thing uses the well-known Keytonics cpacitive 
>>> > keyboard.The
>>> > foam pads under the keys can fail with age (resultign in non-working
>>> > keys), also the metalising on the back of the lower plasic disk can
>>> > vanish (!).
>>>
>>> Patrick Sch=E4fer has suggested a different material for repair of Lisa
>>> keyboards, the metal-foil-like wrapping from a crisps/chips/fries
>>
>> I wonder if those metalised mylar emergency 'blankets' would work.
>>
>> The origianl plastic was much thicker and more rigid that either of these
>> alternatives, but that might not matter. But I wonder if something closer
>> to the original could be found to keep the thing nearer the original.
>>
>>> pack. I have not tried this yet but I am collecting the packaging.
>>> Patrick also describes a handy Lisa keyboard tester.
>>
>> Hmmm... I notice he won';t release the firmware source. I can fully
>> understnad why the sources for commercial products are often not
>> available, but my suspicious mind suggests that one reason why they
>> wouldn't be avaialble for soemthign like this is that the author is
>> aashamed of the code. In which case I am not sure I'd trust it.
>>
>> -tony
>>
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