Summary: is there any word processing software for the pdp11?
jacob.ritorto at gmail.com
Tue Dec 2 08:53:01 CST 2014
Yes, Mark, it was a poor old ultra5 that I used for the Diablo last night
as well, but running snv_65! That hardware, while pretty cheap and rafty,
does have a mysterious tendency to last a long time.
I had thought TeX was line printer friendly at some point and only later
evolved to support matrix-type devices?
I had purchased Wordperfect for Linux some decades ago. It was quite
brittle, but mostly worked. Didn't try the cli version, just gui, which is
regrettable. iirc it was ported via java, so maybe my old copy would work
on other unixes (or whatever random java hosts) as well?
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk>
> Jacob, I went along a similar journey with VAX to find a terminal based
> word processor. I used ALLIN1 back in the day so knew that was a
> possibility - the word processing module is a successor of WPS-8 called
> WPS-PLUS - this was a stand-alone application for a while before ALLIN1
> came along.
> Skip Walter, one of the original architects has written about it here:
> There are a couple of other articles on his site too.
> I installed and used ALLIN1 for my Retrochallenge 2009 Winter Warmup entry,
> there are some screen shots and information here:
> What I have found is that terminal based word processing software is pretty
> thin on the ground across the board. The other alternative I've played with
> is WordPerfect for Unix. I have that running on a Sun Ultra 5 under Solaris
> 2.9 - there is both a graphical and command line executable. Others have
> tried to find similar software - a word processor you can telnet to
> effectively - but there isn't a great deal out there.
> To bring this full circle I also connected a daisywheel printer (a JUKI
> 6100) to the Ultra 5 and successfully printed out articles written in
> If I could find a language I was comfortable with and a PDP environment I'd
> give writing a rudimentary word processor a go (think the kind of
> application you might have found on a CBM-64 back in the day for example).
> Finally, TeX (or probably more likely LaTeX) is a great tool that easily
> gets you hooked once you've had a play. It is *extremely* powerful so you
> have to put a bit of effort in for anything fancy, but for banging out
> letters you're in a straight ASCII text editor - no frills (or maybe
> thrills?) required. Definitely requires a page-based printer however
> (inkjet/laser) - happy to be proved wrong but unless you have an
> application to print pixels on your daisywheel (it has been done mind!)
> you're out of luck using that as an output device from LaTex (actually that
> might be a bit harsh - lots of documentation systems can convert to LaTeX
> and I remember a terminal based preview application so maybe there would be
> a bit of milage in there but it would mostly be a clash of technologies I
> On 2 December 2014 at 14:00, Jacob Ritorto <jacob.ritorto at gmail.com>
> > I was seeking the "best" pdp11 prose text editing experience for typing
> > in manuscripts, composing, letter writing, etc. (not programming
> language -
> > that was just a side effect of some editors actually being programming
> > languages in and of themselves).
> > Since this is such a highly relative subject, I expected a slew of
> > answers and got them (thanks, all!).
> > While not part of the originally-intended scope, the conversation has
> > inspired me to at least try composing in TeX, which I've sort of meant to
> > do for years, but never got a round tuit. Sounds like it'll stay out of
> > way and allow me to just flow ideas and not even address layout until the
> > end, which is, in essence, what I'm after. That said, I think the most
> > convincing answer to my original question so far, not having actually
> > reviewed them yet, is some kind of emacs, most likely Jove since it's
> > already there in 2.xBSD and keeps me from having to mess with/re-learn
> > other operating systems (oh, shoot!). As a side note, I used teco and
> > back when pdp11s running DEC operating systems were still being phased
> > and found them to be unsatisfying; however, I do admit that I was an
> > amateur at them.
> > My other point here was to get the Diablo 630 going and have it type
> > nice, letter-quality copy for me. Since my kid had a report due this
> > morning, I caved and temporarily connected it to an old Sun machine and
> > just threw lpd at it. Pretty straightforward:
> > lpadmin -p diablo -v /dev/cua/b -o stty=300 -o banner=never
> > enable diablo
> > accept diablo
> > So the thing's up and accepting jobs. Prints like a war zone :) !!!
> > Once one of the '11s is up, on the net and stabilized, I'd like to have
> > take over this role as well.
> > thx again for all the discussion around this & feel welcome to continue
> > thread!
> > jake
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