BLIT display debugging advice
derschjo at gmail.com
Sun Nov 16 13:49:57 CST 2014
On 10/26/2014 8:09 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
> On 10/25/2014 10:17 PM, Don North wrote:
>> On 10/25/2014 8:14 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
>>> I picked up a Teletype DMD 5620 (aka BLIT) terminal a couple of
>>> weeks back and I finally got the keyboard working this week; in the
>>> meantime a problem with the display has cropped up.
>>> See here for a video:
>>> (apologies for the quality and that it's rotated 90 degrees... you
>>> get the general idea).
>>> For those without video-playback capability, essentially after
>>> warming up for awhile (generally after a couple of minutes) the
>>> screen starts shaking horizontally; like the horizontal position is
>>> oscillating rapidly. This causes "fringes" on the horizontal edges
>>> of the picture, as this oscillation occurs multiple times during the
>>> course of a single rescan. Generally it gets worse and worse the
>>> longer it's been on, though sometimes it will stabilize for a little
>>> I thought it might be a bad solder joint and I started prodding
>>> around with a dowel when the set was "cold" but I was unable to make
>>> the screen jump at all while doing so. I also cleaned the
>>> horizontal position and horizontal oscillator pots with some contact
>>> cleaner to no real effect.
>>> I am not particularly good with CRTs, working on them is not my
>>> favorite thing, something about the high voltages I guess :). Anyone
>>> have any suggestions?
>> It appears the the screen is jumping in some integral number of
>> pixels horizontally, like 32 or 64. I don't see any vertical scan
>> line displacement.
>> I would check that the digital horizontal sync (and blanking if
>> available) are rock solid, and that the digital pixel stream is gives
>> a stable eye, and
>> it solidly locked to the horizontal sync signal.
>> Based on the short little movie I would suspect more of a digital
>> issue than a monitor analog issue, at least for starters.
> Thanks (to both you and JWS) for the tips. I'll see if I can get a
> scope hooked up to the sync signals sometime this week, though the way
> the behavior progresses (it gets steadily worse and the amplitude of
> the oscillations gets greater) makes me think it's probably not a
> problem with the signal coming from the display logic -- a digital
> failure I'd expect to stay approximately the same, something that
> increases in magnitude over time seems more like an analog thing, but
> maybe I'm jumping to conclusions :).
> At any rate, it doesn't appear to be a thermal issue -- I powered it
> on this afternoon and it's now immediately showing the issue, much
> worse than before; to the extent that I can hear a not-very-pleasant
> whining from the flyback that makes me nervous to run it for any
> significant length of time as I'm afraid something (like the flyback)
> might get damaged.
> I may attempt a recap at some point (when I find time -- I don't know
> why I keep getting into new projects when I have no time for them...)
> since it's likely due anyway. There are a lot of capacitors to
> enumerate and stuffed into a relatively tight space. Did I mention
> that I hate working on CRTs? :)
> Thanks again,
> - Josh
Just a a quick follow-up here: I recapped the BLIT this weekend.
Recapping the monitor's power supply had no effect but after doing the
main PCB it seems to be humming along nicely. I also redid the logic
power supply while I was at it.
Now to fix the mouse...
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