Pascal not considered harmful - was Re: Rich kids are into COBOL

Guy Sotomayor ggs at
Thu Feb 19 18:42:13 CST 2015

> On Feb 19, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at> wrote:
>> I got my start punching Hollerith cards and handing in a box of them at
>> the computer center window. :-)
> In my first semester of teaching FORTRAN, I had a student who had taken
> multiple programming classes at Cal-State Hayward.  But, she did not know
> what the word "COMPILE" meant!  She had always turned in her program at
> the window, and picked up her output later.
> THAT is why I made my C students use both a command line compiler AND an
> IDE.

I've never quite gotten the hang of an IDE.  When I was *required* (damned build
environment) to use it, I only used it as a graphical compiler.  Everything else
(edit & run/test) was done outside of the IDE.

Of course, I started writing FORTRAN on an 029 keypunch and had to load the
card deck (complier was on disk), compile the code, link it, get an output deck
and then I could run that (this was on an IBM 1130 at the time).  Was *really*
happy when we got WATIV and could do a "compile and go" when I was testing
code (lots few cards to toss) but still needed a deck for the "real" runs because
that had to be run off hours.

TTFN - Guy

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