Bay Area: IBM 4341 and HP3000

Guy Sotomayor ggs at
Sat Jan 10 21:41:28 CST 2015

Yes, I tried to talk to him at about the same time and got nowhere. This 
time I made an actual
offer but I needed to see it and might up it depending upon the 
condition.  As you can see from
my earlier posts today that because of the way it was put into storage 
and the way it was stored
it's basically all just scrap now which is too bad.

TTFN - Guy

On 1/10/15 6:51 PM, Marc Verdiell wrote:
> I talked to the owner maybe 6 months ago. It was a bizarre and difficult
> interaction. He refused to let me see the units, and insisted I give him an
> offer first. He would not even give me the list of the items he had. We went
> into a circular discussion: that I couldn't give him an offer if I didn't
> know nor see what the items were, to which he replied that if I were a
> serious buyer I would make him an offer beforehand, therefore I was not
> serious and he would not show me the items nor give me the list. So that was
> not very helpful. Then later on he sent me 3 or 4 close up pictures of only
> the name badges of some of the machines (one badge from HP, maybe two of
> IBM). I got the distinct impression that either something was fishy or that
> the guy had unreasonable expectations. Or maybe both. I just gave up. Looks
> like you are faring much better than me, so that's positive. I am interested
> in the IBM system, the tapes and tape controller units mainly, if you don't
> want them.
> Marc
> On 1/9/15 6:38 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
>> When Bob and I initially talked to the owner, he told us that what he
>> had was a major find for a collector. He spoke in glowing terms as to
>> the condition of the 4341 and the HP mini (de-installed from a running
>> environment and then stored for many years). So as you would expect,
>> Bob and I were very anxious to see both systems. What we found was a
>> serious disappointment. As Bob said, the 4341 and the HP mini were
>> crammed into a storage unit with lots of other junk. It was impossible
>> to see/determine what system components were actually there. There was
>> no way to know how complete or what features either system had.
>> Repeating what Bob said, everything was water damaged, rusty and in
>> poor condition - and I do mean everything. We told him that his asking
>> price was too high - and that the condition of the systems was so bad
>> we wouldn't even make him an offer. Lyle
> Well that's a disappointment.  I'm still going to take a look at it
> tomorrow...but I'm going to be prepared to walk away from it.
> TTFN - Guy

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