Bay Area: IBM 4341 and HP3000

js at js at
Sun Jan 11 14:18:27 CST 2015

My point is only that, why unnecessarily 
make it harder and/or more costly for 
the eventual real buyer?  That's not 
collegiality either.  Sellers with no 
knowledge of what they're selling are 
using "apparent interest" as their 
primary calculus on their pricing, so 
excessive interest that isn't even real, 
just inflates their expectations to 
beyond reasonable.

I'm not talking about ripping anyone 
off.  I'm talking about keeping things 
REASONABLE and win-win fair.

Auctions are not collegial -- they're 
competitive, and since when is 
competition a negative?  But one form of 
collegiality would be the non-serious 
people not making things harder for the 
serious people.

- J.

On 1/11/2015 11:34 AM, Sean Caron wrote:
> Sheesh! Not so collegial! My take has always been, if you find a hidden
> gem, great, but if it gets blown up and the item's got buyers swarming and
> the price is shooting up, c'est la vie... Nobody owes us cheap additions to
> all our personal collections (though of course it's nice when it happens
> anyway). I do miss the "old days" when so much of this stuff was just
> generally available for the taking, nobody would have ever thought to fight
> over it!
> Best,
> Sean
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 10:15 AM, js at<js at>  wrote:
>> On 1/11/2015 4:50 AM, jim s wrote:
>>> I talked to him at length and got a little more on the story.  ...
>>> ... [snip]
>>> I'm willing to say that my impression of the guy is that he had very high
>>> expectations of what he had stored...
>>>   No wonder.   As a buyer, the worst thing you can do with any seller is
>> have a bunch of people calling up, expressing interest, and informing the
>> seller that he has special items and that there are special groups of
>> people out there who are interested.   Now the seller's beliefs in a high
>> value are confirmed.
>> It's far better for a potential buyer that the seller thinks he has junk
>> only a scrap dealer is interested in.  Scrap dealers don't pay diddly squat.
>> The more who call, the more the sellers hopes are raised.
>> Why people who have no actual capability of purchasing these items are
>> calling the seller up and taking up their time, is beyond me.  All you do
>> is raise the difficulty of negotiations for the actual guy who might end up
>> buying the items.
>> Any actual buyer is fully capable of getting all the answers they need
>> without your interference.
>> For the similar reasons, as a frequent buyer, it also highly annoys me
>> when systems on eBay or Craiglist are found and rebroadcasted here.  Now,
>> my chance find has been made aware to a much wider audience, the
>> competition shoots way up, and I have to pay more.
>> Of course, there's sellers here too who benefit from the rebroadcasting.
>> But I say, let them broadcast themselves.
>> - J.

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