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Mouse mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG
Sun Jul 26 16:15:36 CDT 2015

>> [USB]
> And the proliferation of unofficial VID and PIDs seems to be an
> issue, [...]

Well, given the difficulty of getting official values (USD 4k, per
year(!), seems to be the cheapest option at the moment - certainly
completely out of reach for anything hobbyist), this is hardly

Of course, that's not entirely unreasonable given the tiny space.  But,
also, it is entirely predictable; I don't know what the USB designers
were on when they either failed to predict it or ignored the problem.
I suspect they were trying to lock out the small fry; how they failed
to realize that any kind of enforcement is utterly impractical I have
no idea.  (The sane thing to do would have been to make the space large
enough that IDs could be handed out freely...128 bits, say.)

I recall seeing some organization that had a vendor ID inherited from a
company that had it assigned before the license agreement made them
non-perpetual and non-transferrable, and was handing out device IDs,
but my search-fu is too weak to find it now (if indeed it still

> Really, it's a mess.

I concur.

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