organizing a trip to Cuba

Holm Tiffe holm at
Wed Jun 24 14:42:30 CDT 2015

Johnny Billquist wrote:

> On 2015-06-24 08:45, Holm Tiffe wrote:
> >Johnny Billquist wrote:
> >
> >>Well, unless I'm mistaken, when the Russian VAX-11/730 on a chip came,
> >>DEC had already produced the uVAX II, which is also just a chip, but
> >>much faster than an 11/730, so it's not exactly as if the Russians were
> >>outperforming what DEC was doing... Exactly when did this Russian chip
> >>come out, by the way? Curious on exactly how far DEC had come at the
> >>time of that chip. :-)
> >>
> >>	Johnny
> >>
> >>--
> >
> >That wasn't the question at all Johnny.
> >I wanted to make clear that not all clones are clones.
> It's hard to define exactly what a clone is anyways. But DEC was very 
> aware of the fact that the Russians were copying their stuff.
> Just look at the CVAX, when they even put a message in Russian on the 
> silicon, for anyone to read, if they actually went down and looked at 
> the chip at the gate level... :-)
> 	Johnny
> -- 
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Yes, that's old news.
Dec was aware that PDP11's an VAXes got copied, but it seems that the
russians not copied the cips, the build ther own machines using the
Machine description from DEC..



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