organizing a trip to Cuba

Johnny Billquist bqt at
Thu Jun 25 12:49:13 CDT 2015

On 2015-06-25 13:31, Liam Proven wrote:
> On 24 June 2015 at 14:19, Johnny Billquist <bqt at> wrote:
>> Oh, I know. I'm from Sweden. We had a very big scandal where 5 containers
>> with a VAX-11/782 and peripherials or something like that was found under
>> strange circumstances. When the whole thing started to be investigated
>> suddenly no one seemed to know or own those containers. The system was
>> unclaimed for years, and it became a question of what to do with it, since
>> no one seemed to claim it. I think it was eventually decided that since DEC
>> made it, it was returned to them. The original shipping destination was of
>> course somewhere in Soviet Union. This was in the early 80s... I'm sure
>> someone can find the full story online somewhere.
> It's mentioned in the Datasaab article on Wikipedia:

Hmm. Some interesting information on that page. But anyway, no, the 
smuggling story in that article is not the one I was referring to. That 
story is about some Swedish computers for ATC (also usable for military 
purposes obviously) which contained some American components, for which 
Sweden did not have an export license, so they somehow got to the SU 
without permission, which was later revealed, and was not a nice story, 
since the Swedish government was involved.

Search for "containeraffären" in Google (unfortunately I only manage to 
find Swedish texts about it, but Google translate is your friend). In 
short, a private businessman in Sweden was involved a the shipping of a 
VAX-11/782 and peripherials via South Africa and Sweden (maybe 
Switzerland was also involved). It was caught by the Swedish customs, 
and the stuff never reached the SU. I guess that sortof repaired the 
damage of the previous "Saab-affären" story in the eyes of the USA...


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