VCF Ban, Vector Graphic cards, Wright card punch, MDS Keyboard

Michael Brutman mbbrutman at
Sun May 3 13:19:48 CDT 2015

Not to add too much to the drama but I don't think this should go unsaid:

1. It saddens me that part of your hobby is being ruined for you.  You know
what?  It saddens other people that you are ruining things for them too.
So stop with the constant nitpicking and snark, especially when replying to
people you already "have a history" with, and things like this won't
happen.  Nobody is winning here.

2. The history is much longer and much deeper than the referenced thread.
Pointing out the tip of the iceberg and commenting on how that should not
have sunk a ship is deceptive.  This history goes back four years and it
involves a few other members too.  The cycle of flare-up, bans,
discussions, and un-bans has gotten old.  And none of it has been done in a
vacuum - Erik is usually involved.

3. You consider my behavior insulting?  I consider your behavior insulting
too.  There are people writing me notes of encouragement too.  None of this
means anything.

4. I've contacted Erik (again) to have him make a decision.  He is not
responding, so I assume he is attending to real life.  Want back in?  Fine,
let's talk in private - mbbrutman at  Or wait for Erik.


On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Mike Stein <mhs.stein at> wrote:

> As some of you know, Mike Brutman recently kicked
> me off Erik Klein's excellent Vintage Computer
> Forum, for no reason other than Mike's ego and the
> chip on his shoulder as far as I and the folks who
> wrote me unsolicited notes of support can tell:
> Apparently some folks also wrote to Erik on my
> behalf, but he's chosen to not reply...
> Be that as it may and aside from the embarrassment and Mike's insults, no
> problem; more time to spend elsewhere and an excuse to finally get rid of
> the PC-related systems, motherboards, cards, disks & drives, docs etc. that
> I've been hanging on to for close to 40 years in case someone might
> need/want something some day.
> But being cut off arbitrarily and without warning
> or recourse from my contacts and email archive at
> VCF might affect some other folks; among other
> things, I have here, boxed and ready for shipping
> to someone on VCF but no idea to whom, the
> following items:
> - Vector Graphic S100 Bitstreamer II and
> Micropolis Floppy Controller cards.
> - Wright Line manual 80 column printing card
> punch.
> - Mohawk Data Sciences keyboard.
> AFAIR the floppy controller and the keyboard were
> both going to someone in Canada, one in BC and the
> other here in Ontario, and the rest in the US.
> If any of those folks happen to read this, please
> get in touch with me off-list.
> Thanks,
> mike

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