Pine (was: Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 20)

Eric Christopherson echristopherson at
Fri Nov 20 13:39:32 CST 2015

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at> wrote:

> Am I the only one left using Pine!?
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2015, Fred wrote:
>> No you are not.
>> I use (al)pine on my OpenVMS system here as well as my main Linux host.  I
>> have mail going back to 2004 here and since 1996 at another public access
>> Unix host I use.  It's great when I'm out of town and can ssh in from my
>> phone and check the mail. :)  Pine does most everything I need without
>> having to worry about malware, phishing, etc ... the beauty of text.
> I also have a gmail account, mostly for forwarding/viewing non-text stuff.

I use mutt (text-based) on my laptop, connecting to Gmail via IMAP. When I
get non-text stuff I can just hit a key and open it in a browser or picture
viewer. It works pretty well, but I wish it didn't take so long to load the
headers each time (they're supposed to be cached but it sure takes a while
to go to my "All Mail" folder with its 33,000+ messages).

I'm considering doing something that actually downloads my Gmail content
locally and keeps it in sync periodically, but I haven't really looked at
what's necessary for that. One thing I'd love would be a way to change some
threads as mutt sees them -- the client has had the ability to associate
messages with or disassociate messages from a thread manually for years,
but it seems that when I do that, Gmail later reverses my decision. I'm not
sure how I could keep synchrony with Gmail *and* have that.
        Eric Christopherson

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