flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?

Johnny Billquist bqt at update.uu.se
Tue Nov 24 01:46:54 CST 2015


On 2015-11-23 20:30, David Bridgham wrote:
>> For a classic/straightforward programming interface, the Massbus disks (RP04 and successors) are a good choice.  That will take you just over 500 MB, if you emulate the layout of the RP07.
>
> Current thinking (at least my current thinking) is RK11 first then
> probably RP11, both optionally extended to support Q22 addresses.  Also
> something we're calling the RQ11 which will be our "native" interface
> with variable sized disks with a 32-bit linear block address giving 2TB
> disks for those who are willing and able to write their own device
> drivers.  Finally, most likely the RH11 for some Massbus disks with
> 22-bit addressing.  After that, I'm thinking to call it good and move on
> to other projects though I'm certainly willing to talk to anyone who has
> a particular disk controller they want to implement.

22-bit addressing is not possible on the Unibus.
The RH70, which is the massbus controller for the 11/70 do 22-bit 
addressing, but it manages that by not sitting on the Unibus.

Your native interface have the additional problem that in addition to 
requiring people to write their own device driver for any OS usage, it 
will be rather difficult to get booting from it, since that require 
special support.

RK11 and RP11, while fairly simple, are also very small devices. Is that 
useful for anything beyond it being a fun exercise? Massbus is a bit 
more useful, as it at least gives some larger devices, but you need to 
implement each device. Each has its own device identity, with its own 
geometry, which you need to support. There is some rather non-generic 
things around massbus.

	Johnny

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