Is tape dead?

Dave G4UGM dave.g4ugm at
Tue Sep 15 13:24:23 CDT 2015

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> Sometimes I think management just wants to offload the important work to
> some other entity so they can move the blame once things go south (and
> they eventually will).

I think there are other pressures, but I am sure there is an element of
this. The other one is that they are under pressure to save money and often
there can be short term "savings"..
.. and once there is no internal system to compare with then senior
management can't dispute the costs

>  So much in the news about companies getting hacked
> and all the information stolen makes me wonder why your competition just
> cant have you hacked and your files tampered with. By the time you figure
> out something is fishy your off site mirror data might be screwed as well.

That's why you need to be able to go back generations as well. I also see
that the rise in "ransom ware" in a corperate environment..

> The
> cloud is a hackers dream, why spend the time to hack individual companies
> when you can hack a data center and get 1000's of them at once.

Because if it is done properly it looks like lots of individual companies
and hacking them all can be a problem. 
I also believe that cloud companies are less likely to take short cuts with

> I like tape for archives and collect all kinds of formats for fun. Most of
what I
> use personally is LTO 1/2 since its so cheap and 100/200GB per tape is
> useful. For old machines you just mess around with DLT/DDS/AIT work just
> fine. I have QIC tapes from the early 90's that are still readable if

I have a selection of tapes but DLT2 is my biggest...


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave G4UGM
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 7:13 PM
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> Subject: RE: Is tape dead?
> I spoke to my former employer and they are ditching tape. They want off-
> site replication and if they have an off-site replica they see no need for
> tape.....
> Dave
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> > Richard Loken
> > Sent: 14 September 2015 23:56
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> >
> > The death of tape is greatly exagerated.
> >
> > My duties today included removing 50 tapes from our Storagetek 500
> > tape library and sending them offsite for safe storage.  These are
> > LTO-5
> cartridges
> > that can hold up to 30 Tbyte of compressed data and it can be written
> > on
> the
> > tape with astonishing speed.
> >
> > On the other hand, my employer is bored with 40Gbyte DLT cartriges
> > because 40Gbyte is little more than a SSSD 5-1/4" floppy disk these
> > days
> so I
> > now can have them for free.  I have a DLT4000 backing up my toy
> > OpenVMS box here at the office and another DLT4000 backing up my toy
> > FreeBSD box at home.
> > As for cartidges, I am overwelmed with media - including three
> > unopened cartons of NIB DLT-IV cartridges.
> >
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