HP 2100A Restoration
curiousmarc3 at gmail.com
Tue Aug 2 23:44:48 CDT 2016
I didn't know you had such a collection of 2100's and 21MX and E's and F's! I need to come and visit!
> On Aug 1, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> wrote:
> Hi Hayden,
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 19:29:05 -0600
> Hayden Kroepfl <perlpowers at gmail.com> wrote:
>> With regards to the power supply, I'm thinking my best bet would be
>> to do a power on with no cards in the system. Though I'm not sure if
>> all the power rails would even come up without a load on it, since it
>> sounds like it may do some power sequencing from what I've read. I
>> was wondering if anyone has some experience with testing a similar
>> power supply that hasn't been run in at least 10 years?
> Those of us who have brought up HP2100s that have been stored (even in
> military packaging) know the power supplies can be a "bear". The PS is
> a "fold out" deal - and never used to be repaired in the field by FEs.
> They were swapped with new units - and the failing supply sent back to
> HP for refurbishing. The process was detailed to me by a person who sold
> 2100's as an OEM for many years.
> That being said, they are a early design switching supply - and should
> have a load when powering them on.
>> I'm not sure if using a variac to slowly warm up the supply and the
>> caps would be wise on one of these power supplies. I'm not sure how
>> the switching supplies would handle the low voltage at the start.
> I would definitely NOT use a variac on them. It's best to check the
> caps (and reform if necessary) and then power it up with a load. You may
> have to "gently" (as in slowly) turn the PS on and off a number of times
> to work out the years of "dormancy" (reforming the capacitors that you
> can't get to ;)
>> The only I/O card that was installed in both machines, besides a
>> terminator board in only one of them, is a serial interface made by
>> some company with the logo CMC. It uses a COM2502 UART which I was
>> surprised to find a datasheet for, however I haven't found any
>> information on the card itself. I have a photo of the card in the
>> album linked below if anyone has any information on it.
> The 2100 has a weird I/O addressing scheme - so check the manual
> carefully. Moving a card from one location to another in the mainframe
> changes its address! That's very different from DEC (and many
> others) who had switches or jumpers on boards to change addresses.
> interrupts, etc.
>> I know this email is getting a bit long, but with regards to the
>> memory both machines have a ID(16K) driver board, and two core
>> modules. However one machine has both core modules marked 02100-60052
>> on the bridge, and the other has one marked 02100-60052 and the other
>> 02100-60054. Is there any difference between these modules? I'd
>> assume by the 16K driver in both, that all of the core modules are
>> 8KW modules. Would that just be a later revision or is one a
>> different size?
> Look on bitsavers: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/hp/21xx/
> and start reading manuals (particularly the Maintenance and Drawings).
> There a wealth of information to be found there - and it's what I used
> to get my 2100S running.
>> I'd very much appreciate any help or suggestions that peopleh ave. I
>> really want to get at least one of these machines back into full
>> working order to have some fun programming with.
> HP2100 restoration is very doable.
> And the 2100 has one of the best front panels going :)
> Like how can you not like buttons that light up when you push them!?
> Most of my problems with my 2100S were related to the power supply -
> and a few related to memory.
> Wishing you the best!!!
> 73 AF6WS
> Bickley Consulting West Inc.
> "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
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