NuTek Mac comes

Liam Proven lproven at
Fri Jul 15 10:40:27 CDT 2016

On 14 July 2016 at 23:51, Peter Coghlan <cctalk at> wrote:
> What is it that "sucked" about the VMS command line?  I used it a lot and I
> had some issues here and there but I found it to be streets ahead of any other
> command line system I came across on anything else anywhere.
> (Not that I think we should doing os-wars re-enactments here.  Too many glass
> houses to start a stone throwing competition.)


I learned VMS at uni in the mid-1980s. It was my first proper CLI --
before that, my computing experience consisted of ZX Spectrum, CBM PET
and very briefly TI 99/4A. All of those had BASIC in ROM, so they
weren't true command shells. The BBC Micro had a separate OS from its
BASIC and did have a sort of CLI, later more completely separated off
in RISC OS -- but I couldn't afford a BBC Micro and neither could my

I still prefer the DOS/NT shell to Unix ones, to the horror, dismay
and disgust of all my Unix-using friends. The Unix shell does all
kinds of fancy stuff I never need, but it makes things I use a lot,
like wildcard renames, much harder than on CMD.EXE.

So, yes, I liked DCL and thought it was a pretty good -- if wordy --
shell. I don't suppose I remember much now but I preferred it to Unix
from my early experiences on Xenix.

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