Station wagon full of tapes vs cigarette pack (was Re: thinking of the "ultimate" retro x86 PCs - what bits to seek/keep)

Fred Cisin cisin at
Fri Jun 3 18:18:58 CDT 2016

On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, Swift Griggs wrote:
> Station Wagon full of tapes =  302.64 GB
> Cigarette pack full of microSD = 880 GB
> * Corrected volume calcs (least I think I did)
> * Switched to 2400 ft tapes with 3M cases (thanks Chuck)
> * Switched to MicroSD (but no SDHC) so.. 2G only

>>> Now for the cigarette box. I'm going to assume you mean the dimensions of
>>> a *pack* of cigarettes, and since we are all really cool enlightened
>>> smoker-people, we don't smoke 100s.
>> I was unaware of that.
> I'm hetero; so we stay away from 100's or 101's. If other folks aren't
> we'll need to make adjustments since the pack is probably going to hold a
> few more SD's.

You know far more about cigarettes than I do.  I wasn't even aware that 
there was an associated sexual orientation.

In Colorado, are there other kinds of cigarette packs available?

>> Where are the endpoints?
> We'll start at King Discount Cigarettes in LA. That's:
> 10662 Riverside Dr, North Hollywood, CA 91602
> The client is Rhode Island Hospital. It's:
> 593 Eddy St, Providence, RI 02903


> Distance = 2971 miles on I-40, but I'd rather take I-80 so we can swing by
> my place in Colorado on the way. So, that's actually 2998 miles. Sorry,
> but hey, Colorado is more scenic and we have legal, uh, stuff there! I did
> warn this was a Hunter S. Thompson sort of trip. We just have to be sober
> when we get to RI, that's it.

My first choice would have been US66, but that doesn't exist any more.
Second choice would have been "Lincoln Highway", which became US40, which 
is walking distance from my house in Berkeley, to walking distance from my 
sister's place in DC.
But US40 is no more, either, however it can be closely approximated by I80 
to SLC, then I70 east.
So, we still get your stop in CO.   (for you to buy cigarette packs?)

> Google says 45h on the trip, but I'm game for using 50 since I need to
> stop and, uhm, pee a lot. Plus, there are some really great retro computer
> sites along the way! So, yeah, 50h.

Double those stops.  I had prostate surgery in 2014.  It made Windoze 
updates look successful.

>> whereas a cigarette pack of Micro-SDs could be in your pocket on a plane
>> (if TSA will let you through)  How many cigarette packs can you fit into
>> an accepted carry-on bag? (Nobody wants to pay excess for baggage!)

WOULD TSA permit carrying multiple memory cards?

How much would we charge per GB for data transfer?

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