ASM, Clancy & Harvey, and Agile (Re: vintage computers in active use)

Swift Griggs swiftgriggs at
Fri May 27 16:04:53 CDT 2016

On Fri, 27 May 2016, Fred Cisin wrote:
> Ah, but the Crazy Cranky C Curmudgeons Classic Computer Talk list is a 
> subset of cctalk. But, there was a big crash a while back, and 
> separation of the lists hasn't been completely successful.

Yes, quite correct and the tagline for the list is:

"General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"

I'm going to call discussions of the relative merits of C coding "general 
discussion" and we'll say the curmudgeon bits are "off topic" if you like. 
It still seems to fit the list quite nicely. 

Also, to be fair:

1. Some of that discussion spawns other threads about classic hardware. 
Observe folks talking about hardware memory tagging features in classic 
systems to aid with GC and other items of discussion. 

2. Programming and computers are a bit hard to separate. Classic computers 
had classic languages, too. Witness the discussions on BLISS, BCPL, and 
older implementations of FORTRAN and COBOL that runs on classic machines. 
My point is that it's not really all that off-topic. 

curmudgeon (noun):
    a bad-tempered or surly person.

Wouldn't complaining that people are going off the rails qualify as surly? 
Just sayin'  :-)  


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