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Guy Sotomayor Jr ggs at
Fri May 27 21:23:07 CDT 2016

> On May 27, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Jon Elson <elson at> wrote:
>   It hasn't
>   seen battle yet (and I hope it doesn't have to) but I'm a little worried
>   about the fact that it's beaten (badly) in simulations and exercises with
>   much older fighter aircraft with much more "primitive" tech, including
>   Russian aircraft, too.
> Oh, just to add more, the F35 is not a "fighter" despite its designation.  It is an air superiority platform that is never supposed to get into a dogfight.  It is supposed to be in a network of planes, and agressors will be shot down by missile from 50 miles away.  The F22 is supposed to be the dogfighter.

…and that was the issue with the F4 Phantom during Vietnam.  The F4 was designed to take out aircraft with its missiles.  Except that didn’t work too well.  The USAF decided after Vietnam that all “fighters” would have a “gun” of some sort.  I guess they forgot that lesson.

TTFN - Guy

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