G4 cube (was Re: 68K Macs with MacOS 7.5 still in production use...)

Ryan K. Brooks ryan at hack.net
Tue Sep 13 12:44:39 CDT 2016

On 9/13/16 12:31 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
> On 13 September 2016 at 18:53, Ryan K. Brooks <ryan at hack.net> wrote:
>> See Also RedHat and CentOS.    No telnet, netstat, etc.
> My lack of fannish enthusiasm for the RH family of Linuxes got me
> fired from Red Hat.
> Nonetheless, their willingness to remove old, insecure legacy stuff
> from the OS so that users are encouraged to get with the programme and
> move on to modern modern equivalents -- ssh, the ip command, whatever
> -- is something I strongly approve of, and wish Debian and its kin
> were quicker to imitate.
Are ifconfig, netstat, traceroute, et al really insecure?    (Maybe a 
case could be made for traceroute)   These types of changes to the core 
of userland are epic dumb IMHO.   Telnet is very useful for debugging, 
and certainly dropping telnetd is a good thing - which everyone has done.

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