No telnet! omg! What do I do? - Re: G4 cube (was Re: 68K Macs with MacOS 7.5 still in production use...)

Toby Thain toby at
Tue Sep 13 14:41:41 CDT 2016

On 2016-09-13 1:44 PM, Ryan K. Brooks wrote:
> On 9/13/16 12:31 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
>> On 13 September 2016 at 18:53, Ryan K. Brooks <ryan at> wrote:
>>> See Also RedHat and CentOS.    No telnet, netstat, etc.
>> My lack of fannish enthusiasm for the RH family of Linuxes got me
>> fired from Red Hat.
>> Nonetheless, their willingness to remove old, insecure legacy stuff
>> from the OS so that users are encouraged to get with the programme and
>> move on to modern modern equivalents -- ssh, the ip command, whatever
>> -- is something I strongly approve of, and wish Debian and its kin
>> were quicker to imitate.
> Are ifconfig, netstat, traceroute, et al really insecure?    (Maybe a
> case could be made for traceroute)   These types of changes to the core
> of userland are epic dumb IMHO.   Telnet is very useful for debugging,
> and certainly dropping telnetd is a good thing - which everyone has done.

Boy are you going to get a shock when you start using containers for 


(who doesn't understand why it's such a big deal to install 1 package 
for telnet client)

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