DS12887 pcb substitute with battery

Maciej W. Rozycki macro at linux-mips.org
Sun Jan 22 15:49:54 CST 2017

On Sun, 22 Jan 2017, Chuck Guzis wrote:

> It's worth noting that the original post was about fabricating a
> replacement using the DS12885A RTC chip.  However, most old PCs used the
> DS1285 RTC (inside of a DS1287  module).  The DS12885A is supposed to be
> drop-in compatible with the DS1285, but apparently, in some cases is not.

 Of course it's not, because the DS12885 has additional 128 bytes of 
internal RAM addressable with the use of the AD6 line, which used to be a 
don't-care for the address register in the DS1285.  So if a system or a 
piece of software uses bit #6 of the address for some other purposes while 
letting it through down to the chip, expected to ignore it, then the 
effect will be different with the expanded chip compared to the original.  
Likewise with all the module variations made around these cores.

> So there's logic in reworking the old DS1287 modules, as the DS1285 chip
> is long out of production--you'll most likely have to be content with
> pulls or the occasional NOS lot.

 A problem with reworking is there is sometimes very little clearance 
available, so any modification has to be made in a clever way or you risk 
a short-circuit.  For example in DECstation 5000 systems their DS1287 chip 
is located in the TURBOchannel option slot area with the top of the chip 
almost reaching the solder side of the PCB of any option plugged in there.


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