Was Ultrix for DECstations -- now DEC advances
ajp166 at bellatlantic.net
Sun Nov 13 18:09:34 CST 2005
>Subject: Re: Was Ultrix for DECstations -- now DEC advances
> From: Bill Pechter <pechter at gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:01:20 -0500
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>>>d|i|g|i|t|a|l had it THEN. Don't you wish you could still buy it now!
>Came up with that one night thinking about DEC's UDA-50, HSC50 and
With 8 uVAX of vatious types LAVC is really nice. Still cant do that
with a PC.
>DEC always had stuff that was easy for the end user. Not always for the
>programmer (TKB taskbuilder comes to mind...) TKB had more options than
>EMACS had special keystrokes.
TKB was strange and wonderful.
>I never did get along much with RSX as more than a user. Coding under
>RT11 was great and RSTS/E Basic Plus was slick.
RT-11 is my favorite PDP-11 OS and I have it for all my 11s. RSTS/E
is one I used and liked.
>Multiuser Basic on RT11 was slick.
Never used it. Would have liked to.
>I had 4 terminals off a PDT11/150
>supplying different functions... Program input on one, console on
>another, monitor of memory on a third, serial printer on another. In
>60kb of memory. There's a PDT11/150 selling on Ebay now.
>I thought about it but the storage was too limiting.
I have a PDT11/130 (tu58 in a vt100). sloooow. Fun!
>Rumor has it some hacker at DEC took the signals off the bus and was
>working on a hard disk that would look like an RK or something like an RL.
I can believe it. IDE is a simple interface and can be made to look
like most anything with a brain dead 8048.
My favorite small 11 is a BA11VA shoebox with 11/23, 256kb ram, DLV11J
and MRV11(boot proms) with a TU58 emulator (8051 and for 128kx8 rams)
that is faster than the real tu58 and run RT-11 XM with bas RT11 in VM:
>>Thankyou for that! Some of the things I was used to at DEC I still haven't
>>found a PC version that is close. If there ever was one that would be
>>VAXNotes, really great collaboritive tool.
>>Anyone ever do a wintel editor (NOT WORD) that had a single key for advance
>>cursor one word?
>Hell. I want a Decmate box just for WPS...
I have a DMIII for that reason runs OS278 and WPS.
>I've got WPS-80... but I'd love gold-key word processing on Windows...
>One time I tried getting SmallEDT up on CP/M 80...to give me EDT on CP/M.
Yucky. For CP/M I have VEDIT and thats as clost to EDT ot VAXedt as
you can get. In command mode the same teco macros run. It's configurable
so a VT100 keypad does the expected EDT stuff.
Never got the PC version but it was supposed to be the same thing.
>The wife was amazed how easy WPS was to learn for an untrained novice at
>the keyboard. Wordstar was hell and WordPerfect required all the
>special keyboard overlays...
My partner also like WPS still and uses PCs all day. She was also a
former digit and learned the DM/wps first and found the PC was crude.
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