history of homedirs on unices
zmerch at 30below.com
Sat Sep 24 09:19:40 CDT 2005
Rumor has it that Tim Shoppa may have mentioned these words:
> > Minix however used to have its homedirectories in /usr. Did "real"
> > unices used to have the homedirectories their as well?
[[ snippety ]]
<MODE="rant" TYPE="General, not at Tim">
[[ Oh, waitaminit - maybe I should have just put 'snip' in there as
'snippety' isn't really a word, like stuph really isn't a word, and now
someone's going to gig (as in military gig, as in point out my errors, not
the computer gig) my spelling and whine about the fact that I'm not using
100% perfect grammar 100% of the time. Next, the non-words 'automagically'
and 'frobnicate' will get me kicked off the list too!!! :-O ]]
Get over it, willya? Sheesh. If you don't care for a particular person's
grammar (or lack thereof) that's why you have a delete key.
>For some reason, the old way of partitioning unix systems still lives
>on although the need for multiple mount points and spindles doesn't
>matter much in a world of multi-hundred-Gbyte disks....
That's a blanket statement that's *just plain wrong.* There are still a
*lot* of reasons to divvy up spindles, and the primary one off the top of
my head is a *nix mailserver. If the home directories are on the same
spindle as the queue directory is on the same spindle as the SQL data, the
hard drive spends all it's time seeking and very little time actually
finding, and the server will grind to a halt with a relatively few users,
and the CPU just twiddling it's thumbs. Multiple spindles on a technology
where each spindle can be communicated with separately (read: SCSI) makes
much more efficient use of rotational memory.
It depends on where your bottlenecks are.
> I suppose
>it's like "always make your swap partition twice the size of physical
>memory" even though the rationale behind that recommendation was
>stale 15 years ago and is much more stale today!
10 years ago, I used to set my swap to 3x my RAM, and quite often used it.
Albeit more slowly, but I did have a genuine need for that.
I have more money now than 10 years ago, so I generally only set swap equal
to available RAM, but even now I've been known to run out of swap on (rare)
Again, it depends on the individual users' needs.
>Partitions do come in handy for many reasons of convenience, but
>most of the stale recommendations are more of an inconvenience now.
Admin a few mailservers, and then call me when you change your mind. I'll
happily buy you a beer then. (Hell, I'll get you ripped! [UK: pissed!]
Sometimes alcohol is the only way I can keep my sanity with all the
phishing / scams / spams / etc. I deal with on a daily basis.)
But it pays the bills... mostly. ;-)
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
Roger "Merch" Merchberger | Anarchy doesn't scale well. -- Me
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