Anyone heard of a North Plug or IBM wire relays ... Re: Jonesplugs, or similar sorts of plugs

CSquared csquared3 at tx.rr.com
Sat May 23 21:41:07 CDT 2009


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From: "Charles H Dickman" <chd_1 at nktelco.net>
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Subject: Re: Anyone heard of a North Plug or IBM wire relays ... Re: 
Jonesplugs, or similar sorts of plugs


> William Donzelli wrote:
>> Yes, pictures please.
>>
>> --
>> Will
>>
> http://www.chdickman.com/IBM/490-0056/
>
> My recollection was a little fuzzy on some details. The wiring is made up 
> of wires with crimp terminal plugs on the ends and each relay socket 
> terminal has two receptacles for the wires. The relay moving contacts are 
> actuated in a group by a plastic piece connected to the armature. The each 
> moving contact consists of two fine (#30) gold wires. The narrow relays 
> have 4 Form-C contact, the intermediates 6 and the wide ones 12.
>
> The plug and terminal strip are not part of the base socket frame, but 
> were likely made by us and then added to the frame.
>
> The date code on the chassis says 1976, so this is probably the last one 
> built and then cannibalized for relays to send to customers.
>
> After looking at it, I wish that it still had the full compliment of 
> relays. It might be interesting to make something out of it.
>
> -chuck
>

Hi Chuck,
>From your img_4676.jpg I would say those are exactly what I was trying to 
describe, including the crimp terminal plugs.  And yes, they did come in 
different widths depending on how many poles were required at that point in 
the logic.  My experience with them was in the early 60's and most of the 
ones I encountered were silver rather than gold though.  You should be able 
to easily slide the wires out for inspection and just as easily slide them 
back into place.  With the silver ones we sometimes slid all the contact 
wires out just enough to clear the contact posts and them ran a little flat 
burnishing tool between all the posts to "clean" them.  Some thought this 
was counter-productive, and I can't really recall ever fixing a problem that 
way.  Unless a short occurs somewhere and actually destroys the wires and/or 
contacts due to too much current, they seemed very reliable.

There was also a variant with two coils.  When the main coil pulled the 
relay in the armature became mechanically latched in that position.  Then 
some time later the smaller coil could be activated momentarily to unlatch 
and allow the contacts to return to the normally closed position.  Nice if 
you needed it activated for long periods and didn't want to have to keep 
current flowing through the main coil.  Greener as well, before we even knew 
what green was.  :)

Later,
Charlie Carothers
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