IBM S/390 on ebay
jws at jwsss.com
Sun Oct 24 14:32:24 CDT 2010
The LIC for the r/390's and the pc/390's was at one time freely
It is the OS Licensed material that is not transferable to another
entity. The firmware is not a problem. Most of the peripherals have
LIC code and you only need to call IBM to get copies if you supply the
I have two 3174's that have "LIC" and IBM's support number supplied the
code at IBM's cost to fix me up. I have to say that I was impressed
with that. I also ordered 3290 support as well as the latest rev of the
Token Ring support on 2mb floppies.
I also believe that the firmware for the 9370's is not a problem to
transfer, just the OS. Linux is not a problem.
I will ask a friend who has two of these running what if any issues he
has, as he may have transferred a license I don't know about for one of
the smaller 390's he has. Based on his use, I would almost (but for
that detail) say there is no problem as long as you have the hardware.
On 10/24/2010 11:25 AM, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
> On Sunday, October 24, 2010, Daniel Seagraves wrote:
>> On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Stéphane Tsacas
> <stephane.tsacas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Do be advised that if you should obtain one of these, it is illegal
>> for you to operate it in any way. The microcode, which IBM calls the
>> LIC or Licensed Internal Code, is licensed only for the use of the
>> original purchaser and only on the specific machine and
>> configuration as IBM delivered it. Any other usage by any other
>> party is unlicensed and illegal.
> This isn't true at all. The last time I read the license agreement that
> popped up booting my S/390's service element, it required you to
> transfer the LIC with the machine. It certainly didn't allow you to
> keep the LIC if you got rid of the machine, nor did it require you to
> destroy the copy of the LIC if you transferred the machine to someone
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