Differences between PDP-11/83-84 M8190-AB/AC and AD/AE CPU cards
holm at freibergnet.de
Thu Feb 5 14:12:15 CST 2015
Noel Chiappa wrote:
> So I've seen some references which say that the M8190-AB and -AC (w-o/w FPJ11
> FPP chip) are 15 MHz "11/73" CPUs for QBUS use, and the M8190-AD and -AE
> (w-o/w FPJ11) are 18 MHz "11/83-84" CPUs for UNIBUS use (via the KTJ11-B
> convertor, of course). (Of course, the /83 is nominally QBUS, but let's ignore
> that for the moment... :-)
> (And I'm not even going to try to give the KDJ11- suffixes that go with
> these... :-)
> However, I'm wondering if this is correct... I have a CPU board out of a 11/84
> (one owned by DEC, no less!) which says M8190-AB on the handles, but the clock
> crystal says "18.432", and it has a 57-19400-09 J11 chip, which seems to be
> the 18MHz version (the 15Mhz seems to be -04).
> Comparing it to a 'stock' -AB, this one seems to have the same 74S472 PROMs
> (6 along the lower left-hand edge), PALs (top center and lower left), etc.
> But they also match the ones on a 'stock' -AE, too!
> So clearly an -AB/AC _can_ be _upgraded_ to an -AD/-AE... but are there
> actually any differences between an -AB/AC and an -AD/-AE, other than the
> I don't have my /84 up yet, so I can't plug a stock -AB in and see if it
> works, but I'm starting to get the impression that except for the speed of the
> J11 (and the crystal), and whether or not it came with the FPJ11, all four of
> these boards are otherwise identical. Whether it's a 73, 83 or 84 depends
> entirely on whether it has PMI memory and the KTJ11-B UNIBUS converter (and
> the correct backplane, for the latter, of course).
> Anyone have an confirmation one way or the other? Thanks!
I've upgraded my Board from 15 to 18Mhz, changed the xtal and the J11,
works flawlessly on 2.11 BSD with PMI memory and FPU.
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