How many use old browsers (e.g. =< Netscape 4 or IE 6) as their ONLY source of web content?
Jerome H. Fine
jhfinedp3k at compsys.to
Fri Jul 3 09:26:41 CDT 2015
>Terry Stewart wrote:
>I'm engaged in a Retrochallenge project where I'm recoding my
>classic-computers.org.nz site to make it suitable for mobile platforms. I
>want to modernise the code as well, making it as close to HTML5 standard as
>The RetroChallenge blog site is here.
I checked this site under WinXP and found no problems. The software
is very old, but a quick search did not locate the version.
>In doing this, I will probably need to say goodbye to old browser
>compatibility. As in old I mean Netscape 4 or earlier, and other pre-2000
>browsers (and possibly IE 6, as it's not very standard).
As I noted in the statistics, I am one of the VERY, VERY, VERY few
still using 32-bit Win98SE and Netscape 7.2 for e-mail and sending this
reply. While I prefer to stay with Win98SE, I may upgrade to 64-bit Win7
so I can use a faster computer to run the emulator that I use: Ersatz-11.
>The website does have a few articles and resources of interest to vintage
>computer hobbyists, which I wouldn't want to make inaccessible. The
>question is, how many guys like us, those who dabble with old tech, are
>likely to use ancient browsers as their ONLY source of web content. I
>suspect not many. Should I worry about it? Any comments welcome.
>On a related note, I'd be interested if anyone on the list CAN'T read this
This link also found no problems under WinXP.
I have not checked out either of the links under Netscape 7.2 since
any problems might be difficult to correct. After I perform a backup
of my C: drive and it will be possible to easily restore my system, I
will try them.
>It's a new blog page template I've developed using HTML5 and is mobile
>friendly. If it doesn't show up properly I'll be interested to know what
>browser you're using.
>Please be kind about the HTML5 and CCS code. I don't do this for a job,
>and it's a big learning curve for me.
>P.S. Here are some interesting stats. For myself, I've been a Chrome user
>for a number of years now.
Obviously, I am in the negligible category for still using Win98SE and
Netscape 7.2 along with 1280 by 1024 for my video display. However,
at least I upgraded to a flat screen monitor after both of my previous
tube monitors died a few years ago. As I mentioned above, I will access
the 3 links you provide after I backup my C: drive. I normally avoid any
links to the internet on this Win98SE system and always restore the
C: drive after I do so. If there is a link that looks interesting, I send
an e-mail to the WinXP system and check the link there.
Under WinXP, I looked over your page on emulators. I don't know
if you consider the PDP-11 and the VAX as classic, but they were not
included. The PDP-11 has many emulators including Ersatz-11 produced
by John Wilson at dbit. The SimH emulator also supports the PDP-11 along
with the VAX and a number of other hardware platforms.
Do you not consider the PDP-11 a classic system? I realize that most of
the software is still legally proprietary, but hobby users are allowed to
legally use early versions of the software under SimH. Mentec, who
acquired most of the frequently used software from DEC, is no longer
active with the PDP-11. The software IP seems to be with another,
but that is difficult to verify, let alone to confirm whom to contact.
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