BASIC (Was: Reading HP2000 tapes
cisin at xenosoft.com
Sat Jul 14 15:53:49 CDT 2018
On Sat, 14 Jul 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote:
> isn't the basic programs also stored in tokinized forms!?!?
And the tokens are not the same between different brand implementations,
or even between different versions, such as MBASIC 4 and MBASIC 5.
I don't know the token list for it. You MIGHT be able to find that
in one of the early manuals for it (1969), possibly as an appendix.
newline is 0D,0A
Saving a file in UN-tokenized form is done with "CSAVE". (similar to the
"SAVE xxx,A in Microsoft BASIC)
If writing a conversion program for it is an unsurmountable obstacle, then
all that you need to do is to send me back in time to 1960. That will
give me almost a decade to get established and get the money together, so
that when the machine is first released, I will get hold of one, and write
a program in BASIC to detokenize a stored BASIC file, and save it in
untokenized form. I will then put a copy of that BASIC utility program
onto the tape that you will end up with. To leave enough space on the
tape for the other stuff, I will store that program in tokenized form.
Optionally, I can set up a portfolio for you then, to fund the time
NOTE: I have made a similar open offer to John Titor. So do it quickly to
be first! Offer is for a ONE-WAY trip. Round-trip is not acceptable.
NOTE: the language BASIC is an acronym for "Beginner's All-purpose
Symbolic Instruction Code." ALL CAPS !
The basic programs and utilities that come with the machine that are not
written in BASIC are not tokenized.
The language was developed by Thomas E. Kurtz and John G. Kemeny at
Dartmouth College in 1963. One of their "basic" oremises was "a number is
a number", and that people using the language shouldn't have to understand
the difference between integer and floating point.
They abandoned their offspring for decades, and it wasn't until mid 1980s
that they ever even looked at the BASIC that was present, even built-in,
on most personal computers! They finally noticed how the adult had grown
up, and were SHOCKED at "street BASIC", and how people such as billg
(MICROS~1) and Gordon Eubanks (CBASIC) had corrupted it. So, they
created and marketed "TRUE BASIC" in 1985, which was a structured
compiled language, that returned to the true faith.
"I think I'll pass up the opportunity to become a born-again True BASIC
believer. I'll enjoy my Microsoft and CBASIC heresies." - Jerry Pournelle
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
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