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by Robert Armstrong

> Paul Koning <paulkoning(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On the other hand, the even more obscure DECnet/8 was found a couple > of years ago. Its main limitation .... Besides being Phase-I, DECnet/8 is not a "complete" implementation. The only application provided is a console to console talk program that can only talk to other PDP-8 nodes. There's no FAL, CTERM/RTERM, NFT, NCP, or any of the other things you might expect. I think DEC expected customers to write their own RTS/8 and DECnet-8 applications. Bob

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Stolen QBus & Unibus boards

by Doc Shipley

I learned tonight that someone cleaned out my storage unit, and part of their haul was a couple of cartons of DEC boards. I haven't dug up the itemized list but in there were several QBus VAX memory boards, a graphics adapter, a microVAX III board set, a couple of RQDX boards, both QBus and Unibus serial boards, Unibus SDI board sets, a BA123 cabinet, tk70 controllers, a couple of Ethernet boards... And a Mentec/93. If anyone unfamiliar approaches you about selling a big stash of DEC, please get all the info you can and call the police. Thank you. Doc

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Re: Operating system, on punch cards

by Van Snyder

On Mon, 2 Mar 2026, Fred Cisin wrote: > With a couple thousands I mean several thousands. And drawerS and cabinetS > because we got several cabinetS with drawerS with our machine. One drawer > contains three trays that hold about 2000 cards each. > Download our files and count the card yourself! Download from where?

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Re: Operating system, on punch cards?

by Paul McJones

As a student at UC Berkeley (1967-1971), I had a part-time job at the Computer Center, which ran a CDC 6400 under SCOPE. We punched cards, transferred them to magnetic tape, and used UPDATE to maintain logical decks. I personally used this technology while working on CAL SNOBOL and CAL TSS. Once we got CAL TSS far enough along to support development (on a second CDC 6400), we switched to Teletypes (a mixture of Model 33’s and Model 35’s). I still have source code for CAL SNOBOL because of archivists at U. of Arizona and U. of Texas, but most of the source code for CAL TSS was lost (listings survive). Paul McJones https://www.mcjones.org/CAL_SNOBOL/ https://caltss.computerhistory.org/

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Looking for service info for a Wang 600

by swperk＠earthlink.net

Hello, I bought a Wang 600 in unknown operating condition, but it looked to be complete and undamaged. Unfortunately, the shipper used a "professional" shipping service that wrapped this calculator in a single layer of bubble wrap, put it in a single wall box, and filled the rest of the space with packing peanuts. The result was predictable. The rear and sides of the molded ABS case were completely shattered, the rear mounted fan was knocked off, the housing bent, and a fan blade broken off. Fortunately (if that's the right word) the chassis, cards, keyboard, and display all seem intact. To try to assess the extent of the damage, I would like to complete the removal of the plastic case but do not see how it is fastened to the chassis. Can anyone help? Also, any troubleshooting info would be appreciated! I already have the schematics, but I probably won't be needing them until I do some inspections and basic checks. Thanks, Stan

3 months, 3 weeks

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Operating system, on punch cards?

by Steve Lewis

So studying about 1960s operating systems recently, it occurred to me that the ASR-33 wasn't really "a thing" until the late 1960s. Yes, they technically existed since 1963, but even going through 1960s Datamation issues - you don't see a lot of ads or mention of ASR-33 until 1965. The IBM 1050 maybe existed in 1961 for the IBM 709, but even so - general thought is that CTSS (operating system) was largely initially developed using punch cards. So - are there any archives or collections of these original punch cards? Or are they essentially all gone/destroyed, since in general after some code was "perfected" it was likely then archived to tape? Anyway, apologies - it was just something that only recently occurred to me, that basically all of the original operating systems originated on punch cards: CTSS, Supervisor, AOSP, SCOPE, even MULTICs. So - do any of those decks of cards still exist in archive? Would be neat to see a photo of those - except it would be a shoebox of punch cards like any other, I suppose. Or is this wrong, and the top tier teams making these OS's, probably had teletypes and all the magnetic tape they wanted? -Steve

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Everex Step/MP: Did it ship?

by Chris Zach

So back in the 1990's the dream server for me was an Everex system called the Step/MP. Cube shaped, EISA bus, could take multiple 386/33 CPU blades and ran SCO. But all I had was memories as there was very little info on the Net. Today I was going through a closet I haven't been able to access for 20 years and in the Computerworld 1992 25'th anniversary issue I found it: A 2 page monster ad about the Step/MP. $13k, could have six 486/33 CPUs, EISA/ISA bus, 64mb of memory stock with support for 4mb SIMMs. So it did exist.... Question is did any of them make it out there? SCO was the obvious OS, but given that it was a SMP system I wonder if there was an NT 4.0 HAL out there like there was for the NCR 3550/4300 series of multiprocessor systems. Anyone have one? Seen one in the wild? I am curious. Everex/STEP was always the best quality system for a server, right alongside Compaq. Sad they went out of business. Chris

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Looking for Codex modem manuals/info

by Richard Cini

All – I’m working on a simulation project where I’m using two Codex 2121 LDSU (local data service unit) modems to simulate a leased line setup to a DECSYSTEM-2020. These modems use 2-pair cabling (TX+,TX-/RX+.RX-) and DCE DB25 connections. I believe each modem is working in loopback mode, but I can’t get it to work over the 2-pair interface between the modems (i.e., a loop back plug on one modem and terminal on the other). The only manual I’ve been able to locate is the sales brochure, not any kind of user manual. Anyway, have the interface cross-connected (i.e., TX to RX) but there are no polarity markings so I just used each pair in the same color order. Has anyone used this kind of modem before, have a manual, or know how to connect them? Thanks! Rich -- Rich Cini http://cini.classiccmp.org https://github.com/RichCini

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Re: Your subscription for cctalk mailing list has been disabled

by Alessandro Mazzini

Test ( sorry guys for cluttering , but I'm puzzled since I'm using Hotmail so... should not have this kind of issues ) -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org <cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2026 7:03 AM To: mazzini_alessandro(a)hotmail.com Subject: Your subscription for cctalk mailing list has been disabled Your subscription has been disabled on the cctalk(a)classiccmp.org mailing list because it has received a number of bounces indicating that there may be a problem delivering messages to mazzini_alessandro(a)hotmail.com. You may want to check with your mail administrator for more help. If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the mailing list owner at cctalk-owner(a)classiccmp.org

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Re: Operating system, on punch cards?

by bluewater emailtoilet.com

Punchcards? You want punchcards? I got punchcards. Not exactly what I think you are looking for but a large sample. Please check out www.punchcardarchive.com Check the Stats page for a quick summary. Beware the Album page. It takes a while to load. After all, it has to display 25532 cards. Not a full program but doing a search on CCROS in the Title field will show a few cards that represent a few bits of a read only S/360 program. Donald

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