20 Oct
2025
20 Oct
'25
4:43 a.m.
On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 at 22:03, Frank Ventura via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
For what it is worth (probably not much). I have had good luck using Open Source Legacy
Patcher on some rather old Apple hardware. Fun to keep those funky little 2013 Mac Pro
“Trash Cans” running.
I can second this - I had at least Ventura running on an original 2009
MacBookAir2,1 which was... an effective way to provide a point, even
if the point was that just because you can recent OS versions on a
machine, doesn't mean you should (unless you like the interactive
performance of a graphical UI on a VAX)
I also used it to get the latest macOS & XCode on a 2012 Macmini6,2,
which was just about useful as a build box for a small iOS flutter app
Obviously did not need it for my "anglepoise lamp" G4 iMac, which runs
NetBSD 11 Just Fine :-p
(If you want "technically still supports, though not useful in any
way", you should be able to boot NetBSD 11 on a Sun-2 from 1985, as
long as you get started soon and don't have any plans for
Christmas...)
On Oct 17, 2025, at 12:21 PM, cz via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I really need to try this. And yes, there are a billion reasons to dunk on Windows, but
the fact that the OS runs on a 19 year old laptop is still not too bad.
My AT&T7300 can't match this, nor can any of the Apple products (well you can
hack the installer for Intel core duo stuff but it's not really supported and
Apple is seriously turning perfectly good older hardware into trash)
Well... currently Apple officially supports hardware back to about
2017, and Windows 11 officially supports hardware.... back to about
2017. I think dunkage due has about parity there.
If including rufus and other hacks to get Windows 11 installed on
older kit are included, then so should OpenCore Legacy Patcher... and
it remains about parity with respect to security updates as the Apple
side will automatically install any updates for that OS version, while
Windows 11 will lock you to whatever 24H3 base release you ended up
installing until it stops getting security updates.
Even then, I agree there are still better reasons to dunk on Windows
than support for older hardware - the official Microsoft statement of
"The vision that we have is: let’s rewrite the entire operating system
around AI, and build essentially what becomes truly the AI PC" (direct
quote) was the straw that finally nudged me to reformat my gaming PCs
from Windows to Linux. (I'm more that a little salty about that as I
had *finally* grown to quite like Windows 10 - not for my personal
machine, but for when I needed to work on someone else's or do
something that needed Windows)
Anyway, take care
David