Due to massive amounts of caffeine & sleep deprivation, Kai Kaltenbach said:
>Tandy 600
>
>Introduced:
> October 28, 1985
FYI: Mine was built in September, 1985, so I would imagine they would need
some time to ramp up production for the introduction.
>Storage:
> Internal 3.5" 360K floppy
> (storage only, not bootable)
Not bootable, 'cause it boots from ROM. BTW, SSDD 80 Track, 9SPT.
>Ports:
> RS-232 and Centronics parallel
>Bus:
> Proprietary for external floppy or "other peripherals"
I'm at work, 600 at home (awaiting new internal nicads...) but unless Tandy
or Zenith (OEM) designed a floppy-port-based whatever, the external floppy
port is a 1-for-1 pinout of a standard floppy interface... so you can hook
up either a 3.5" or 5.25" floppy, provided it's 80 tracks or more. (That
means I could hook up my 2" floppy, if I designed an interface cable, as it
only has a 22-pin cable (all standard signals, plus power... just need to
align the signals.)
> One option ROM socket (accessible by removing
> Multiplan) that holds BASIC or other ROMs
>Power:
> AC adapter, and built-in NiCd batteries
AC adapter is 8V DC, 1.5A, IIRC. (hafta look when I get home...)
>Modem:
> Internal 300 baud
>Operating System:
> Proprietary ROM
It's called HH/OS, (Hand-Held Operating System... tho I doubt you'd call
the 600 a hand-held!) and it was produced by MicroSoft.
>Applications:
> Built-in System Manager, Word, Calendar, File,
> Telcom and Multiplan
>BASIC:
> Optional ROM cartridge
>Keyboard:
> 72-key
>
>Pricing:
> Base system $1599
> BASIC ROM $129
> 96K RAM upgrade $399
Didn't the Basic ROM originally cost $139.95, or did it go up from
original? (I'll have to look that one up in my '89 catalog...) Tandy still
sells the ROM, and they still want $120 for it!!!!! :-(
HTH,
"Merch"
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>You do need the system disks in order to make copies of disks.
Maybe. For the longest time, I didn't have a DOS 3.3 System Master for
my IIGS. I thought DOS 3.3 was a neat OS because you could make your
own bootable disks easily. (You can with ProDOS too, but I didn't know
that at the time.)
I managed to get DOS 3.3 by finding a game or something that ran on
DOS 3.3, halting it with Control-C to get to the Applesoft BASIC
prompt, then using the file commands such as INIT to make a new disk.
I can't remember if DOS 3.3 has a built-in command that will copy a
disk... There's probably a way to do it.
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Out of curiosity, anyone know how many IMSAIs were produced?
Sam
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You do need the system disks in order to make copies of disks.
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> From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)crl.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Apple ][e software?
> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 1997 8:50 PM
>
> On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Cord Coslor wrote:
>
> > Greetings:
> >
> > I just picked up an Apple ][e, monitor, disk drives, the whole works...
> > even a mouse! But, I am wondering if someone out there might be able to
> > sell me a copy of the Disk Operating System disks and maybe one or two
> > (more?...) game disks?
> >
> > Please get in touch with me at the below address, e-mail, or phoen
number,
> > if you might have something like that which I could use to get the
system
> > going.
>
> Cord, forget about the system disks. You don't actually need them. The
> Apple was the kind of computer where you could use it with or without
> disks, although having software made it more useful. Each disk for the
> apple is self-contained and has whatever DOS it needs to run it. Your
> main concern right now is to get software for it, whatever that may be -
> games, utilities, productivity, etc. Find the apple users group near you
> (if there is one) or go to comp.sys.apple where you will find a ton of
> information on how and where to obtain apple software. Its not hard to
> find, there were literally tens of thousands of titles published for the
> Apple ][. If you've never had an Apple before, you want to go out and
> start collecting ssome of the games released for it, as there are some
> fun titles. But as far as system disks, if you want to round out your
> collection, then I guess you would want an original copy just to say you
> have them, but every Apple I ever got was second-hand, and I already had
> software from the previous apple I was upgrading from, and having the
> original system disks was a moot point, as there were so many other more
> useful disks to have.
>
> Sam
>
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> Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer,
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>> I'm wondering if there's a way to hack code to get it to copy without
>> any System Master programs.
>
>Oh, sure. Just take a look at the description of the RWTS
>(Read - write - track/sector) routines
>in the Apple _DOS 3.3 Manual_. (You know, the one with the Disk ][
>and controller schematics.) You could probably come up with a
>basic sector duplicator using a dozen lines of BASIC, sprinkled
>liberally with PEEKs, POKEs, and CALLs.
I could do it if I was at home, but I don't have all the manuals at
college with me. So, I'm attempting to rely on memory (I'm pretty sure
I've done something like this with RWTS before). I know a lot of
times, instead of using the boring INIT command to format a new disk,
I would use the RWTS version just for kicks.
Too bad you really can't have as much fun with new computers. :)
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At 11:51 AM 6/17/97 -0700, you wrote:
>IIRC it was a 1040ST motherboard in a laptop case. They come up for
>sale once in a while in the Atari ST news groups. It seems to me
The last STacy I saw sold went for about $750 -- about a year ago. They
still get close to that; they're still popular with musicians.
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At 12:12 AM 6/19/97 -0400, you wrote:
>> If they're shipped to the bay area, I've got lots of boxes and packing
>Uh, but what of us here on the other coast (where the devices are to start
>with)? (I'm in the same area code, actually). Damn, but I wish I was
Oh, sure, keep 'em there before distributing them. *Don't* send 'em across
the country before sending 'em back. Go ahead, be normal. 8^)
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Tandy 600
Introduced:
October 28, 1985
CPU:
80C88
RAM:
32K expandable to 224K in 96K increments
Display:
Flip-up 80x16 LCD
Storage:
Internal 3.5" 360K floppy
(storage only, not bootable)
Ports:
RS-232 and Centronics parallel
Bus:
Proprietary for external floppy or "other peripherals"
One option ROM socket (accessible by removing
Multiplan) that holds BASIC or other ROMs
Power:
AC adapter, and built-in NiCd batteries
Modem:
Internal 300 baud
Operating System:
Proprietary ROM
Applications:
Built-in System Manager, Word, Calendar, File,
Telcom and Multiplan
BASIC:
Optional ROM cartridge
Keyboard:
72-key
Pricing:
Base system $1599
BASIC ROM $129
96K RAM upgrade $399
