On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Geoff Roberts <netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au> wrote:
] I personally feel the 10 year "rule" is useful as a guide, however, I also
] consider that there are several machines that rightly qualify as "Classic
] Computers" that are less than 10 years old. There is a particular "grey"
... snippage ...
Unless the list-maintainer gets active, "on-topic" is by concensus.
We all started with the ten-year rule in the sign-on message, but it
is obvious that not everybody takes that seriously.
So, since it is a matter of concensus, here is my vote.
1. Ten years is just a guideline. If something is only 9 years old,
I won't much mind hearing about it. I might even like it. But if
it is only two or three years old, there must be a surviving
users-group or something. Go find it, or start your own, but please
don't clutter up my mailbox with it.
2. Nothing PC- or Mac-compatible can ever be classic. Sorry, that's
just an indisputable fact. :-)
3. Guns, cars, schools, Star Trek, and politics are not classic computers.
(This is not to disparage people interested in those things, just to
point out that those discussions belong on other mailing lists.)
4. Simply having origins in something that is classic does not make a
thing classic. Otherwise *everything* would be classic.
5. The ten year rule should apply to the date when a thing dropped off
in popularity; if it was still in common use eight years ago, it is
not yet classic. (Justification: if it is still in common use,
there will be other places to discuss it.)
6. Do I really need to add "IMHO" here? :-)
Cheers,
Bill.
Whoops, wrong subject line last time... :-)
--------------------------
I recently acquired a DG Aviion 410 minus keyboard and mouse. Does anyone
have leads on tracking these items down?
-- Tony Eros
Will the person who enquired (a short while back) about an HP
Keyboard with matching RJ-style cable... please drop me a note,
privately? I have the device here ready to ship, and your e-mail
with address has made that long final journey to /dev/null somehow.
Sorry for the OT.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com>
Again, for the record, I think Marvin's posts are at least
interesting and useful and certainly as interesting as any other
report of a sale or give-away or auction. I appreciate his
routine filtering of the search engine on eBay.
-----Original Next Message-----
From: John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com>
>All this was gathered by a few minutes searching with www.dejanews.com
>and www.hotbot.com, with the string "Monte Davidoff". I know, it's
>far easier to enter a message that says "I wonder what happened to
>him," and wait for the oracles to whisper the answer. :-)
Hmmm.... you are indeed an enigma wrapped in a riddle backwards...
Heh
- Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
Heath normally provided all ROM code held under their copyright to their
customers, even the Z100 computer BIOS.
Contact this fellow directly, not me.
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>From: Mike Morris <morris(a)COGENT.NET>
>Subject: FS/FT Firmware PROM listing - H-19
>To: HEATH(a)LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV
>
>Recently while doing an inventory of a silent key's files I discovered what
>is apparently a original assembly code listing of the Heath H19 terminal
>firmware, dated 30-May-1980, complete with cross-reference at the end.
>Apparently Heath sold them.
>
>It appears to be offset printed from an original daisy-wheel printout. On
>the front is says "H-19-1 595-2465"
>
>It was bound with blue vinyl with melted plastic pegs which have fallen
>apart - but it is complete - I checked and every page is there.
>
>Make offer - including trades.
>
>Mike Morris WA6ILQ
>mike(a)morris.com
>
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From: Marvin <marvin(a)rain.org>
>Someone asked a while ago about the IMSAI manuals. The current bid is
>$103.50!
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=59629904
I missed that someone asking about the imsai manuals. I have many of them
if someone need some copying done...
- Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Lane <kyrrin(a)my-dejanews.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, 26 January 1999 16:58
Subject: FW: Late-model VAX available
>>Does anybody have a need for a Vax 8530/ 52mb memory and console , 2-
>>HSC's, 2 - TA81's, 8 - 456mb Hard Drives. Several VT320 terminals and
La75
>>printers. MicroVax II, Star Coupler, Power Conditioner.
Lot of ram for an 8530. Mine only has 20mb. They use a Pro350 or 380 as
a console.
Oh, 8530's are ECL. ie they get HOT. 456mb drives would be RA81's.
Sigh. Things like this always seem to be too far away for me....
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Room Internet Cafe
Port Pirie
South Australia.
netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au
Tony Duell said:
>Talking of CoCo3's, has anyone ever seen a 50Hz PAL video model?
They were sold in Australia. Mine has the following on the sticker on the
base of the unit.
"128L COLOR COMPUTER 3 PAL VERSION"
MODEL 26-3334
Custom Manufactured in Korea for Tandy Australia.
240 V 50 Hz of course.
And for those interested in Serial Numbers, this one is 1003738 and my other
one is 1002641
Roger "Merch" Merchberger said:
>> BTW, my CoCo3's serial # is 102404... anyone know if there are different
>> serial number series for US-sold versus Canadian-sold CoCo3's? I
purchased
>> mine in Canada; much cheaper!
Hi,
I may be interested in one of the CPU's with a keyboard. If you have any
manuals I would appreciate a copy. I think that this is the same as an IBM
PCJR. If I am incorrect please let me know. I collect IBM PCJR's and would
like to have one from another country. Please let me know what the shipping
charge is. Also please let me have a list of wanted computers as I have a
Salvation Army Store about one half hour from my house. I am in the north
east corner of Pennsylvania, USA. Please contact me direct email to set up
shipping arrangements, my email address is > amirault(a)epix.net.
Thanks,
John Amirault
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Guerney <guerney(a)uq.net.au>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, January 24, 1999 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: IBM PC-JX (was: Reiability of wrong media)
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
>
>>How many know about the IBM PC-JX? It had 5.25" 720K drives!
>>Never sold in the U.S., just Japan and Australia?
>
>Hmmm ... never sold in the US....I'll not dwell on the obvious about
>collecting a load of JX systems that were used in some schools here and
>selling them on e-bay ;)
>
>Do you US collectors want these machines? I don't collect IBM PC's,
although
>I did relent once and pay $A20 for a JX machine (IBM Model 5511 with 5515
>monitor and 5519 expansion unit - made in Japan and all in black with a
3.5"
>drive in the main box and a 5.25" drive in the expansion box) that was in
>good condition. As I suspected, not a very interesting computer to me. If
>someone was prepared to foot the freight bill from Australia, I would be
>prepared to sell or trade it. I also would be prepared to look out for
>others and send them on.
>
>Same applies to real Aussie micro's like Microbees and not-so-real Aussie
>items like Dick Smith branded computers (which invariably were sold under
>other brand/model names in the USA).
>
>Trades are more interesting to me than sales - my main interest is roughly
>defined as "1975-1985 home micros". It doesn't matter how much money I got
>for this at auction, it wouldn't help me find a lot of stuff that seems
>available to you lot at your local thrift store!
>
>If anybody is interested, contact me by private e-mail. Just be prepared
for
>at least a 3-month shipping delay, unless it is only a light item, or you
>can afford a hefty air-freight bill.
>
>Phil
>Brisbane, Australia.
>
>
>
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