Good grief, what for? Don't tell me that they've started becoming a
collector's item!
Joe
At 01:56 AM 1/23/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Anyone know where I can find a Gorilla Banana printer? I have searched all
>the "normal" channels. These things were so popular in the early 80's, I
>can't believe they have all disappeared. Thanks,
>
>
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>
>
>BTW, for a PDP-11 is there any real difference in the two cards?
At least for RT-11, it doesn't matter from a programming standpoint since
the NQ handler places the DELQA in DEQNA mode.
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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>Jim Strickland
>jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com
>
>Does being designed around XT class hardware count?
>
Certainly is a laudable argument. How many XT systems
are manufactured today? I can't imagine any myself, save
for embedded systems. So, i'll vote for the term classic
as applied to the presence of an XT foundation.
William R. Buckley
Stupid question: I'm trying to install TCP/IP on my PDP-11/73 running RT-11
V5.4 and am trying to choose the proper driver. Does the PDP-11/73 CPU
have a Processor Status Word?
Also, if you've got a driver for TSX-11 do you have to have corresponding
driver for RT-11 installed?
Zane
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Actually, there was a thingy called PC/IX which ran on those non
memory-managed systems. I actually managed to snag a copy a few years ago.
Jay
At 04:28 PM 1/22/99 -0500, cswiger wrote:
>Spotted this in a Linuxtoday.com article on the latest
>linux kernel:
>
>"On somewhat of a tangent, there is continuing work to
>support a subset of the Linux kernel on 8086, 8088,
>80186, and 80286 machines. This project will never
>integrate itself with Linux-proper but will provide
>an alternative Linux-subset operating system for
>these machines. "
>
>Hmmm, I do have *a* 'C' compiler running on one of those
>Compaq luggables...
>
> Chuck
> cswiger(a)widomaker.com
>
OK, I'm almost ready to downgrade my PDP-11/73 to a DEQNA since I've got
plenty of Doc's for it :^)
Does anyone have the switch settings for DELQA ethernet card such as they are?
BTW, for a PDP-11 is there any real difference in the two cards?
Zane
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Well, every computer I have that has 1 MB or more or RAM. Which is a total
of Hmm.. 4. All my others only have 640k. two are IBM's, one's a toshiba,
and the other's my P200.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Reiability of wrong media (was: is out of 5-1/4" diskettes
>>
>> Every computer that I've ever owned, When it does a memory test of "1
>> megabyte", the listing is always
>>
>> 1024KB......OK.
>
>I can't work out if you're agreeing with me or not.
>
>However, 1024KB _is_ 1 Megabyte. It's 1024 * 1024 (=1048576) bytes.
>Unless 'every computer that you've ever owned' defines 1KB as 1000 bytes
>(hint : none of mine do that).
>
>-tony
>
>
>If so, how does 1474560 become 1.44M, not 1.47M?
>The only way is to mix the terms, and use 1024000 as a meg! That is
>NEITHER the power of ten, NOR the power of two. In addition, it is NOT
>what they then use to measure memory!
Heck, I don't know about PCs... they do strange things. In pdp-11
land, we all talked about powers-of-two for memory and disk space,
and knew full well that the actual count of bytes was going to be
different.
1 Kb is 1024 bytes. 64 Kb is 65536 bytes. 128 Kb was 131072 bytes.
and so on...
Worked the same way for disks... RT-11 architectural limit for a
disk volume is 32 Mbytes. That's
65536 (blocks) * 512 (bytes)
---------------------------- = 32 Mb
1024 * 1024
It all just seemed to work properly *in the ole days*, PCs screwed
things up... :-)
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
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At 01:01 AM 1/22/99 -0600, you wrote:
>I wonder if it could marquee "I wish I were an Alpha."? Just a thought.
I wish I were an Alpha brand computer,
and not a cheap taiwanese pc.
cuz if I were an Alpha powered server,
I would not be stuck with WinNT.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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