In a message dated 11/9/99 10:29:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
healyzh(a)aracnet.com writes:
> > ObClassiccmp: I just was given an *immaculate* Mac 512 with over a
> > hundred disks, a printer, and an original Thunderscan.. all in soft
> > nylon carry-cases. It was owned by one of those folks who have their
> > equipment autoclaved every six months, just for good measure. It is
> > all literally in show-room condition. Also, three unopened toner
> > carts for the Laserwriter... and the person delivered them to me.
> >
> > Must be Kharma!
> >
>
> OK, someone mind explaining what "autoclaved" is, or is that a typo, and if
> so what should it be?
>
> --Confused
an autoclave is what they use to sterilize lab equipment. I think it just
gets very hot. No water involved.
d~
Found on USENET. As always, don't reply to me, reply to the person in the
message below.
Zane
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Sat, 13 Nov 1999 03:28:36 comp.os.vms Thread 10 of 23
Lines 15 Re: The search for Vaxen RespNo 7 of 8
Chris Quayle <icq(a)aerosys.co.uk> at CQ Associates Ltd
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Javier Henderson wrote:
>
> Are ESDI drives being made even?
>
Probably not, but they are cheap or given away s/hand and if you find
something like the old cdc / imprimis 5.25 full height, they last
forever.
I have a Microvax 3500 here free to take away. Several RA70 drives,
ethernet all in a BA213 box. Any interest ?. Has netbsd on one of the
drives and vms 5.4/5 on a couple of the others.
Rgrds, Chris
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Well the week was a little slow and not much is showing but I was able to get a few items.
1. ATT WCS tower rather large unit and not tested yet, only got the tower no KB or monitor with it.
2. Atari AtariLab cartridge with Probe and Atari interface module. Looks like it's for the 800 ? Anyone have a manual for this setup ?
3. Mac Performa 600 for my Mac collection. I now have 44 out of 104 models that I need to complete my Mac collection of units from 1984 to 1995.
4. 51/4 ext. Super Disk Drive by MSD model SD-1 not tested yet.
5. Franklin Ace2100 with only one floppy drive.
6. digital Data cartridge RL02K-DC
7. Tektronix 603 Storage monitor.
8. Mac LC just unit no KB, monitor, or mouse.
9. About 35 different books.
10. A control panel by MAC Panel Co. with various cables still in it. The model is 229222.
11. AA Radio Shack model-100 portable computer with a nice black carrying case and no power. Unit seems to work great using just the 4 batteries. Will play around more this weekend with it.
12. IBM PS/2 model 70 portable (joke) seems to be a 386 with 12 meg HD. Pretty heavy for a portable and only runs with a cord plugged into the wall.
Well there were a few more small items but too many to list and then a few more that are 10 years old yet. Keep on computing John
In a message dated 11/13/99 8:19:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jrkeys(a)concentric.net writes:
>
> 12. IBM PS/2 model 70 portable (joke) seems to be a 386 with 12 meg HD.
> Pretty heavy for a portable and only runs with a cord plugged into the wall.
ah yes, the P70. gas plasma display so that's why it can only run on ac
power. make sure your floppy drive works, there was an ECA about that. they
seem to sell pretty good around this area, although i have spotted one in a
computer junk store for $35, i'm holding off for cheaper. When it was new, it
sold for over $7k.
D~
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Merchberger <zmerch(a)30below.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 6:25 PM
Subject: Customs Tricks (was: Re: Whoohoo! Fortune Telling...
>Rumor has it that John B may have mentioned these words:
>
>>I was at the border once with a load of minis (early 80s).. when these
>>things were still considered worth money... Worse off I got lost and had
>>hives everywhere and was throwing up (from one of *your* donut shops).. I
>>had a receipt for $25.. he guy did not believe I paid that for them. He
>>wanted me to unload the truck and he was going to *value* the equipment.
>
>Which *your* do you mean? On which side of the creek do you reside? ;-)
I reside in Canada....
>
>Also, it's a good idea to know when your local border crossing has slow
>times -- stop in and ask a few questions about duty & tax laws *when the
>border guards are not busy*. I can't stress that enough, because if they're
>booked full and you start asking what can be perceived (to them) as really
>stupid questions, they *will* remember you and give you a hard time.
>[[Hint: Despite the fact that both in the US and Canada you are considered
>innocent until proven guilty, that does *not* count with Customs. You are
>guilty until proven innocent. Period.]] It pays to get on the good side of
>Customs officers, and if you ask questions when they're not busy, they're
>usually happy to help and maybe even stand around and shoot the bull for a
>while.
>
You got it! Yes sir, no sir, can I wipe your....
>Do this a few times, and if you do stop by with a trailer full of mini's,
>when you say that these are for you hobby the Customs agents will first
>think "yea, that's the looney guy that collects old computers for fun." and
>you have a lot more of a chance they'll believe this actually is a *hobby*.
>
In Canada they move the agents A LOT! They make sure you won't get someone
you know everytime... plus a lot of summer students.
>Another tip, if you have small items: If possible, always have *something*
>to declare. I used this trick all the time: I'd go to the RatShack in
>Canada (prices were better for computer stuff in Canada back in '86-'87)
>and purchase a piece of Tandy software and whatever else CoCo stuff I
>wanted. Keep in mind that all Tandy software was manufactured in the USA,
>but most CoCo hardware was manufactured in Korea or Japan. Back then (not
>sure about now with NAFTA) anything made in the US could come "back" to the
>US duty free, but anything from Korea/Japan you had to pay duty. I'd
>(usually) hide the items of Asian manufacture, and when I got to the border
>and they'd ask me if I had anything to declare, I'd say "Sure!!" I'd show
>them the software, and then point to the line and say "See this line here?
>It says 'Custom Made in the USA for Tandy Corporation.'" They'd look, say
>"O.K." and wave me thru.
>
I see you have been there too....
>[[ Of course, YMMV and I will *not* be held responsible if this trick
>doesn't work for you. ;-) ]]
>
>>(went to another border bridge)
>
>That's fine & dandy if you live in a city of a few million... Me? I have
>one bridge to/from Canada in, oh, at least 250 miles either direction. If
>you're in a small border town, get to know your border guards. :-)
>
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I go through 4 possible entry points in Niagara Falls. You
never see the same guard twice.....
I only ever got lucky once and got a girl I use to go to school with... wish
I had a Picasso in the car that day :-(
>Take care,
>Roger "Merch" Merchberger
>--
>Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
>Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
>
>If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
>disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
>
From: "Stephanie Ring"
sring(a)uslink.net
I would like to get into CoCo hacking. Can anyone
suggest sources of information: web sites, email lists,
books, etc.?
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Smith <eric(a)brouhaha.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: Whoohoo! Fortune Telling...
>"John B" <dylanb(a)sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> No Duty. I move machines from the US to Canada and Canada to the US.. You
>> pay DEPENDING on how honest you are.
>>
>> You may have to pay State tax on the purchase price when bringing it
across
>> the border. Be sure to say it is for your PERSONAL hobby. Get a receipt
from
>> the place you are purchasing the mini from.
>
>Is there a problem if I am getting the machine for free? Should I pay
>$1 for it instead, and get a receipt for that amount?
>
NO WAY.
At 5-7% tax put a REALISTIC "junk" value on it.. If they think you are BSing
them they will pull out a book and find out what the REPLACEMENT value is..
I was at the border once with a load of minis (early 80s).. when these
things were still considered worth money... Worse off I got lost and had
hives everywhere and was throwing up (from one of *your* donut shops).. I
had a receipt for $25.. he guy did not believe I paid that for them. He
wanted me to unload the truck and he was going to *value* the equipment.
While throwing up beside him I invoked my right to be "refused" entry to the
country and be turned back with my load. I called for some help (as I was
getting sicker).. Drove to a friends place and got a new receipt for $300.
(went to another border bridge)
(the tax difference would have been $21... hardly worth it.)
Put a value of a couple hundred bucks and pay $12 in taxes....
john
http://www.pdp8.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis N. Aruta <denic(a)liii.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 1:21 PM
Subject: The most Famous ASR33!
>FYI,
> scroll down to the bottom of this page and you will see a very
>famous ASR 33 Teletype machine at work in a Harvard Dorm!
>One recently sold on e-bay for $375.00, values must be increasing?
The $$ value of old mini computer equipment is climbing quickly. The going
rate for an ASR-33 with reader relay running, mint *was* $300US.. As more
people want the stuff the prices are going right up.
There are more and more people realizing collecting computers can be as fun
as[or more] than collecting antique cars.
If anyone here is looking for an ASR-33 please e-mail me to get on my list.
I am picking up 10-15 units in mint condition from a factory in early
January.
John B
http://www.pdp8.com/
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>
I forgot one of the Prime peripherals.. comes from trying to
type when falling asleep.. check out all those transposition typos..
This rig had at one time a Printronix P300, and has the cable set
up for the Dataproducts interface. I have a P300, tho it is not the
one originally with the computer. I had intended the P300 to be used
as a line printer with the PDP stuff, but a suitable bribe and/or
trade could possibly sway my thinking.
Cheers
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Merchberger <zmerch(a)30below.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 3:03 PM
Subject: Whoohoo! Fortune Telling...
>As I gaze into my crystal ball... I can look into the future.... It is
>getting clearer now... clearer... I can see the possiblity of maybe a Vax
>in my basement sometime soon... :-) :-)
>
>There's a guy from Canada (right across the river - I live in a border
>town) that is a repair rep for (now) Compaq that does the service on a
>number of Vaxen in northern Ontario, with whom I've opened a dialogue! We
>started talking about the lunacy of Win2k, the inability of WinNT and
>defined the "good" in "good old days..."; how Wintel just doesn't cut it
>compared to the older stuff and ooey-gooeys just give you sticky fingers.
>;-)
>
>Anyway, from what I understand, he mostly works on Alpha-based machines
>now, but did Vax work in the past and knows a lot of the installations
>around the area. While we were recounting the good old days, I casually
>mentioned "well, ya know, if you know of anyone wanting to get rid of a
>Vax..." and he said that he may know of a few being replaced!!! :-)
>
>He was also telling me how he thought the OLC (Ontario Lottery Corporation
>(IIRC) - they have a rather large office building [for this area] in Sault,
>Ontario) and he thought they were throwing out some stuff but didn't know
>if they already did, and what problems I might have with Customs on the
>return trip (but I know a lot of Customs agents, so I should be able to
>swing anything provided it's not illegal... :-) but he'll check it out and
>let me know next week if anything's available. (he's out of town in Toronto
>for a week).
The Ontario Lottery Corporation uses a lot of Vaxes. (6000s +++). I met a
bunch of guys from their systems department in "DEC unlimited traning" back
when Digital was popular.
If you want anything specific, I use to work with (and know quite well) one
of the Board of Directors at the Ontario Lottery Corp... (He use to work in
the Legislative Assembly in systems).
John
>
>So... maybe I'll get to ask a lot of Vax questions here soon!!! :-)
>
>Take care & happy hunting,
>Roger "Merch" Merchberger
>--
>Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
>Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
>
>If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
>disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
>
