test-drb February 1999

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by Xerox860＠aol.com

Dear Charles, I saw your ad on line. We have 7 or 8 860s, with spare parts for all. There were 2 versions, one with a Pl printer where the orange print button was pushed downwardly, to operate the printer; and 2) a HY-TYPE II printer, where the orange printer button was pushed from front to back to start the printer. If you have this latter version, with the very thick cable from the controller to the printer, then the printer is a HY TYPE II, a rock solid machine, like a battleship. These have a few quirks. Sometimes, the pwr. sup. burps, and you lose the boot-up. I was unable to fix this. However, if you disconnect the printer when you do your composing, backing-up, and so forth, the decreased load (printer not drawing current) will not cause this burp to occur. At least that is what we found. Hope you can get yours working. Let me know how you are doing. Thanks. Ken Lehmann, Fairfield, CT

27 years, 1 month

wanted: 1/2" magtape cleaner

by eric＠brouhaha.com

I have some old 9-track tapes that are too grubby to read; they actually get stuck in the drive and have to be manually rewound. Does anyone have an extra magtape cleaner?

27 years, 1 month

How does gigabit ethernet work?

by arfonrg＠texas.net

Sorry, I know this wasn't classic computer stuff but, I figured that you guys would know the answer. Let me push the question a bit more.... -How do they squeeze that much data down the line? Fiber-optics cabling only? Data multiplexing? -How do they discriminate the beginning of one packet from the end of another when running at such high speeds? >Arfon, this isn't "classic computer material." However, they work by being >very fast. There are several architectures that support multigigahertz >operation and by processing in parallel you get added avantages. Some of >the first Gbit routers had several processors one for each packet that came >in. I believe the Terabit routers are still doing this. > >--Chuck > >At 02:33 PM 2/10/99 -0600, you wrote: >>Can anyone tell me how they gigabit ethernet works? >> >>How can they get such high data transfer rate and how can the cards process >>the packets so fast??? > > >

27 years, 1 month

S/W available

by manney＠hmcltd.net

Available is Lotus 1-2-3 V1.1 for UNIX (5 1/4" and 3 1/2" media) WordPerfect 5.1 for UNIX Make offer to manney(a)hmcltd.net

27 years, 1 month

Poly 88

by amichael＠nortelnetworks.com

I have a Polymorphic CPU/8 board and a Video Terminal Interface, both looking a little beat up and, of course, without any documentation :-( I'd really appreciate copies of manuals so I could get them going again. The Tiny Basic sounds great too and I'd love to have the files to try to burn some eproms. Arlen Michaels ----------------- On Tue, 09 Feb 1999, Marvin <marvin(a)rain.org> wrote: > Dwight Elvey wrote: > > > > Hi All > > I have an old Poly 88 ( the first single button frontpanel S-100 ). > > It has Tiny Basic in PROMs. If any out there would like to > > fill the two empty sockets on their CPU board, let me know and > > I'll have the parts read out. > > If you need docs on the Poly 88, let me know as I have the masters for > quite > a few of the Polymorphic board manuals. I don't think I have Tiny Basic in > Prom, and I would love to get a copy of the binary file! Also, I have > quite > a few of the CPU, Video, and Disk controller boards, although most seem to > be missing a few parts (they look like production boards that didn't quite > get built up all the way.) > > Marvin > > -- > Arlen Michaels amichael(a)nortelnetworks.com > > >

27 years, 1 month

Intel in hot water again, interesting reading!

by edick＠idcomm.com

The solution's simple . . . don't use an intel processor. Goodness knows they're overpriced! Has AMD started doing this? Dick ---------- > From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: OT: Intel in hot water again, interesting reading! > Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 4:48 PM > > FYI > > > > > <http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/scoop-top.gif> The Scoop > > http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/blank.gif > ><http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/blank.gif> > >http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/blank.gif > ><http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/blank.gif> > >http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/blank.gif > ><http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/blank.gif> > >By Fred Langa > >By Fred Langa > > > >InformationWeek > > > >You probably saw the original coverage of Intel's announcement that it would > >embed an individual serial number in each Pentium III and Celeron chip. The > >96-bit ID can identify the user's PC to any software that knows how to ask. > > > >Immediately after the announcement, various consumer watchdog groups went > >ballistic. Epic, the Electronic Privacy Information Center, launched a > >boycott of Intel, calling it the "Big Brother Inside" campaign. Epic says > >the processor serial number, "would likely be collected by many sites, > >indexed and accumulated in databases...The records of many different > >companies could be joined without the user's knowledge or consent to provide > >an intrusive profile of activity on the computer." > > > >Intel immediately backed off a bit by announcing that although the serial > >number would ship enabled on every chip, Intel would provide equipment > >manufacturers with a small software applet that could be used to prevent > >access to the number. However, the software must work (it hasn't been tested > >yet); it must be properly installed on each PC; and it must be run after > >every reboot. > > > >Epic says that because this approach "relies on a software patch that must > >run each and every time that a user turns on the computer, it is susceptible > >to tampering by other software programs." So, Epic's boycott is still in > >place: The group insists that Intel should disable the processor serial > >number at the hardware level, where it will stay disabled until the PC owner > >turns it on. > > > >To further muddy the waters, the processor serial number may not be very > >secure. CMP Media's Electronic Engineering Times quoted cryptography expert > >Bruce Schneier, who talked about the prospect that the serial numbers can be > >forged or stolen: "A system is only as secure as the smartest hacker," he > >said. "All it takes is for one person to defeat the tamper resistance. > >There's always someone who manages to unravel the protection. There isn't a > >copy-protected piece of software that hasn't been stripped of its > >protections and posted to hacker bulletin boards. This won't be any > >different." (For the full story, go to "Intel ID Protection Scheme Called > >Insufficient.") > > > >Of course, there are legitimate and useful purposes for this kind of ID, > >especially for resource-tracking within an enterprise. Indeed, some > >workstation manufacturers already include similar functions on their > >enterprise-ready boxes, and some enterprise software products use these > >serial numbers for licensing. But Intel is attempting to broaden this > >practice to an unprecedented degree by putting the ID number on every chip > >and enabling it by default. Toss in only weak assurances of the serial > >number's security and only a weak turn-off option, and you're got a > >firestorm of protests. > > > >Last week, I conducted an informal online poll among the readers of Windows > >Magazine. The reaction was eye-opening: Out of hundreds of posts, virtually > >all were vehemently anti-Intel. And in that huge majority, most people swore > >their next PC purchase would be AMD-based, until and unless Intel either > >removes the processor serial number or allows it to be disabled in hardware. > >One reader suggested the clever idea of resurrecting the old "turbo" switch > >approach and placing a simple serial number enable/disable button on the > >front of every PC. (You can read more on the controversy and see reader > >reaction at Windows Magazine: Big Brother Inside?.) > > > >I was amazed at the absolute intensity of the reader posts. It's as though > >the processor serial number was the last straw for many people: Intel's > >history of high prices and other public relations fumbles (like the > >floating-point math bug) seem to have built up a huge reservoir of > >resentment that's now spilling over. I think we're seeing the start of a > >strong anti-Intel backlash, analogous to the anti-Microsoft fervor that's > >changing the operating system landscape. > > > >Fred Langa is a senior consulting editor and columnist for Windows Magazine. > >Fred's free weekly newsletter is available via subscribe(a)langa.com > ><mailto:subscribe@langa.com> . You can contact him at fred(a)langa.com > ><mailto:fred@langa.com> or via his website at http://www.langa.com > ><http://www.langa.com> . http://www.techweb.com/ <http://www.techweb.com/> > >

27 years, 1 month

UZI

by ckaiser＠oa.ptloma.edu

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27 years, 1 month

E-Over Pay strikes again! original Altair disk sells for $102.50!

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

At 09:36 AM 2/10/99 -0800, Sam wrote: > >That does it. I'm pulling out an old dot matrix printer from my >collection and an Apple //e. I'm then going to design a label that looks >just like the one on the disk in that auction and print a bunch up. Then >I'm going to figure out how to make it aged a little (or why even >bother...I'll just say its in "excellent condition"). I will then sell >these disks on ebay every other week. > >Don't say I didn't warn you. No, don't say excellant condition, just say unknown condition. That way no one can say that you ripped them off. Just remember that they're hard sectored disks with 10 sectors. I just found a box of them in a surplus store a couple of days ago. Joe

27 years, 1 month

E-Over Pay strikes again! original Altair disk sells for

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<I haven't seen a V7.x VMS source kit, but the V6.1 kit that I have comes o <2 CDs which are pretty much full. Makes interesting reading on cold winter <nights... < <Interestingly the licence you sign before gaining access to the source CDs <says something along the lines of "I promise never to sell/give/other thes <CDs away". I doubt anyone would give them away as the license to see whats on them was at last call well over $3000(US)! The distribution kit fits easily on one CD though. Allison

27 years, 1 month

OT: Intel in hot water again, interesting reading!

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

FYI > > <http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/scoop-top.gif> The Scoop > http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/blank.gif ><http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/blank.gif> >http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/blank.gif ><http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/blank.gif> >http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/blank.gif ><http://img.cmpnet.com/tw/newsletters/blank.gif> >By Fred Langa >By Fred Langa > >InformationWeek > >You probably saw the original coverage of Intel's announcement that it would >embed an individual serial number in each Pentium III and Celeron chip. The >96-bit ID can identify the user's PC to any software that knows how to ask. > >Immediately after the announcement, various consumer watchdog groups went >ballistic. Epic, the Electronic Privacy Information Center, launched a >boycott of Intel, calling it the "Big Brother Inside" campaign. Epic says >the processor serial number, "would likely be collected by many sites, >indexed and accumulated in databases...The records of many different >companies could be joined without the user's knowledge or consent to provide >an intrusive profile of activity on the computer." > >Intel immediately backed off a bit by announcing that although the serial >number would ship enabled on every chip, Intel would provide equipment >manufacturers with a small software applet that could be used to prevent >access to the number. However, the software must work (it hasn't been tested >yet); it must be properly installed on each PC; and it must be run after >every reboot. > >Epic says that because this approach "relies on a software patch that must >run each and every time that a user turns on the computer, it is susceptible >to tampering by other software programs." So, Epic's boycott is still in >place: The group insists that Intel should disable the processor serial >number at the hardware level, where it will stay disabled until the PC owner >turns it on. > >To further muddy the waters, the processor serial number may not be very >secure. CMP Media's Electronic Engineering Times quoted cryptography expert >Bruce Schneier, who talked about the prospect that the serial numbers can be >forged or stolen: "A system is only as secure as the smartest hacker," he >said. "All it takes is for one person to defeat the tamper resistance. >There's always someone who manages to unravel the protection. There isn't a >copy-protected piece of software that hasn't been stripped of its >protections and posted to hacker bulletin boards. This won't be any >different." (For the full story, go to "Intel ID Protection Scheme Called >Insufficient.") > >Of course, there are legitimate and useful purposes for this kind of ID, >especially for resource-tracking within an enterprise. Indeed, some >workstation manufacturers already include similar functions on their >enterprise-ready boxes, and some enterprise software products use these >serial numbers for licensing. But Intel is attempting to broaden this >practice to an unprecedented degree by putting the ID number on every chip >and enabling it by default. Toss in only weak assurances of the serial >number's security and only a weak turn-off option, and you're got a >firestorm of protests. > >Last week, I conducted an informal online poll among the readers of Windows >Magazine. The reaction was eye-opening: Out of hundreds of posts, virtually >all were vehemently anti-Intel. And in that huge majority, most people swore >their next PC purchase would be AMD-based, until and unless Intel either >removes the processor serial number or allows it to be disabled in hardware. >One reader suggested the clever idea of resurrecting the old "turbo" switch >approach and placing a simple serial number enable/disable button on the >front of every PC. (You can read more on the controversy and see reader >reaction at Windows Magazine: Big Brother Inside?.) > >I was amazed at the absolute intensity of the reader posts. It's as though >the processor serial number was the last straw for many people: Intel's >history of high prices and other public relations fumbles (like the >floating-point math bug) seem to have built up a huge reservoir of >resentment that's now spilling over. I think we're seeing the start of a >strong anti-Intel backlash, analogous to the anti-Microsoft fervor that's >changing the operating system landscape. > >Fred Langa is a senior consulting editor and columnist for Windows Magazine. >Fred's free weekly newsletter is available via subscribe(a)langa.com ><mailto:subscribe@langa.com> . You can contact him at fred(a)langa.com ><mailto:fred@langa.com> or via his website at http://www.langa.com ><http://www.langa.com> . http://www.techweb.com/ <http://www.techweb.com/> >

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test-drb February 1999