test-drb March 1999

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by mbg＠world.std.com

Darn, there was a mistake... so I had to redo it... - - - - - Let me answer like this... In a BA123: o The Qbus passes direct from slot1/ab to slot4/ab o For slots 5-12, it does the serpentine (5/ab, 5/cd, 6/cd, 6/ab, 7/ab, 7/cd, etc...) o All dual boards must be placed at some point in the serpentine. For slots 1-4, this means AB. For slots 5-12, this can be either AB or CD. o Quad boards which may not go in CD must go in slots 5-12 o For quad boards which can be either CD or Q/CD, the jumpers on-board must be set for the slot you are placing it in (there should be a couple of jumpers which are removed if the board is placed in a Q/CD slot, 1-4, and installed if it is placed in a Q/Q slot, 5-12) o For quad boards which can only go in Q/Q, they may only be placed in slots 5-12. o If you follow the serpentine, there should be no empty Qbus slots between the processor and the last board in the bus (there are exceptions, but for now regard it as a hard and fast rule). o For any gaps in the serpentine, you should install a M9047 o The RQDX1 is a mutant, since it doesn't pass any grant signals, it must be the last board in the bus o The RQDX2 tried to correct this, but didn't quite - it must be the last DMA device in the backplane... Non-DMA boards *can* be placed after it That's it in a nutshell. For a BA23, the critical numbers are slots 1-3 == Q/CD, 4-8 == Q/Q. There are also some backplanes with Q/CD in all slots, and some which are Q/Q in all slots. Know thy backplane! Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

27 years

Help, yet again...

by mbg＠world.std.com

>After I get it built and have a chance to grok and run a few laps in it, >I'll let you *BORROW* it if you wish... Sorry... once I get my mits around hardware, it is hard to pry it away from me... :-) Thanks, I'll look for one of my own... :-) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

27 years

YANU - uVax

by mbg＠world.std.com

>Thanks Megan! Any time... glad to help... >It turned out that when I removed the Viking tape card to inspect it I >re-inserted it backward (no ears on that one). That meant the RQ11 >wouldn't fit in slot 6 and that meant an empty slot. Whoops... I've done that once before (*once*) >Q1) So how badly does it toast things in the Q-bus to be backwards in >slots A-B ? >Q2) Do all empty slots need to have bus grant boards? Let me answer like this... In a BA123: o The Qbus passes direct from slot1/ab to slot4/ab o For slots 5-12, it does the serpentine (4/cd, 5/cd, 5/ab, 6/ab, 6/cd, etc) o All dual boards must be placed at some point in the serpentine. For slots 1-4, this means AB. For slots 5-12, this can be either AB or CD. o Quad boards which are not for CD, must go in slots 5-12 o For quad boards which can be either CD or Q/CD, the jumpers on-board must be set for the slot you are placing it in (there should be a couple of jumpers which are removed if the board is placed in a Q/CD slot, and installed if it is placed in a Q/Q slot) o For quad boards which can only go in Q/Q, they may only be placed in slots 5-12. o If you follow the serpentine, there should be no empty Qbus slots between the processor and the last board in the bus (there are exceptions, but for now regard it as a hard and fast rule). o For any gaps in the serpentine, you should install a M9047 That's it in a nutshell. For a BA23, the critical numbers are slots 1-3 == Q/CD, 4-8 == Q/Q Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

27 years

FW: PDP-11/70's - Now you can owe one of these great work horses

by kyrrin＠my-dejanews.com

My God... and now we've got free PDP-11/70's in California. With SCSI, no less! Grab 'em while you can! -=-=- <break> -=-=- On Mon, 08 Mar 1999 14:48:25 -0800, in alt.sys.pdp11 you wrote: >>Message-ID: <36E453B9.E69B85EE(a)jps.net> >>Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 14:48:25 -0800 >>From: "E.B. Lieberman" <ebliebe(a)jps.net> >>Organization: Bank of America >>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; I) >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp11,comp.os.rsts,comp.os.vms >>Subject: PDP-11/70's - Now you can owe one of these great work horses >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.239.202.39 >>X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.239.202.39 >>X-Trace: 8 Mar 1999 23:14:51 -0800, 209.239.202.39 >>Lines: 60 >>X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.63.224.240 >>Path: news1.jps.net!209.239.202.39 >>Xref: news1.jps.net alt.sys.pdp11:952 comp.os.rsts:69 comp.os.vms:21006 >> >>Now you can own a PDP-11/70! Yep, that's right. >> >> I'm not talking about those little 11/8x and 11/9x Q-bus jobs. >> I'm talking about the real thing; you know with MASSBUS and all. >> >>A global financial institution, previously headquartered in Northern >>California, is getting ready to say goodbye to the last of its >>PDP-11/70's. These machines (there are eight of them), were used as >>message store and forward switches for nearly 20 years. Great minds >>have tried to count the number of times the world wide GNP have flowed >>through these systems; and failed !!! >> >>Each CPU has roughly the same configuration as follows: >> >> QED 11/70 processor upgrade with 4Mb memory plus cache running at >>multiple VUP speeds. >> (Wow, faster than a 11/780, VAX engineering - eat your hearts >>out); >> >> Two System Industries CLUSTOR III MASSBUS disk controllers with 16 >>Seagate 1.0 Gig drives >> built with SMD interfaces. Ten drives are fixed while the remaining >>are in removable >> canisters; >> >> One Fujitsu 2480M/3480 SCSI tape drive (emulates a TU81) plus >>SCSI-UNIBUS controller; >> >> One TE16 or TU16 magtape drive (MASSBUS); >> >> Two DV-11's with modem control (16 channel sync or async adapters) >>and custom drivers >> set up for a variation on IBM BISYNC; >> >> Three DZ-11's and an ETHERNET DELUA; >> >> Plus software to show you that all hardware components are >>functional; >> >>Did I say eight (8) CPU's? There's more !! >>For a short time only, we can throw in tons of spares that include: >> >> More QED's, SETASI memory (2Mb and 4Mb), more DV-11's, more DZ-11's, >>full 11/70 CPU kits, >> DH-11's, DHQ-11's, 50-60 extra Seagate drives, as described above, >>in removable canisters, >> 24 or so extra SI CLUSTOR controllers, 3 to its own 19" rack. >> >>Am I finished? No way !!! >> >> I'll even throw in a few RP06 disk packs. The platters are great >>for making Frisbee's out of >> (kids, don't play with these without adult supervision). >> >> Boxes of hardware manuals and even a TECO manual (the first real >>editor that today still has the >> best macro generator going). >> >>So if you are interested in taking the entire lot (en masse), then drop >>me a line and we can talk about it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech [dot] com Web: http://www.bluefeathertech.com "...No matter how we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..."

27 years

FW: Free PDP-11/34A in Germany

by kyrrin＠my-dejanews.com

Don't know if we have any subscribers in or near Germany, but... If so, this may be worth a shot. Contact the owner directly if interested. -=-=- <break> -=-=- From: "Norbert Gmeinwieser" <NorbertGmeinwieser(a)swol.de> Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp11 Subject: PDP11/34A for free Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 20:55:55 +0100 Lines: 38 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: kons57.swol.de Message-ID: <36e43894(a)news.swol.de> X-Trace: 8 Mar 1999 21:52:36 +0100, kons57.swol.de Organization: personal X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.238.142.105 Path: news1.jps.net!news.pbi.net!131.119.28.147!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nntp.flash.net!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!195.99.66.215!news-feed1.eu.concert.net!news-feed1.de1.concert.net!news.ipcore.viaginterkom.de!news.swol.de!kons57.swol.de Xref: news1.jps.net alt.sys.pdp11:950 Because of lack of time I would like to give my PDP11 in good hands. Location: South Germany, Konstanz The following modules are installed: KD11-EA M8266,M8265 FP11-A M8267 Bootstrap ROM M9301YF Prog. Console M7859 MOS Memory 248K (not DEC !) RX11 Unibus M7846, (2 Drives #0,#1 in a box = RX01) DL11/W SLU/RTC M7856 Tape Drive TS03 M7911,M7912,M7821,M796,M105,M795 RK11-D Control. M7254,M7255,M7256,M7257 some Unibus connectors M9202,M920 Bus Terminator M9302 Complete in a 19" * 71" cabinet 2 RK05J drives are mounted - one with a deffective blower motor. additional: * a complete box BA?? with memory,CPU, RK05 controller can be used as spare parts. * other spare parts: CPU and RK11 Control - boards only * media : may be 100 8" floppy disks, ~10 decpack for RK05J * OS: RT11, floppy set for RT11-03 (one with read errors), fortran 4 (not tested) last power on time was some years (~3) ago. any questions to: NorbertGmeinwieser(a)swol.de -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech [dot] com Web: http://www.bluefeathertech.com "...No matter how we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..."

27 years

SWTPC and NETRONICS Parts

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

I could use the MP-A2, how much you asking? Jeff ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

27 years

Apple //c

by fauradon＠pclink.com

My mistake, I was misleading in saying that the cricket is in a separate enclosure; actually it is in it's own box with only a cable coming out with a connector that could fit in the modem or printer connectors (Serial device comes to mind) I'll do more web search before posting on the comp.sys.apple2 Thanks for the answers Francois >On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Francois wrote: > >> I just got a //c over the Week End, >> It came with what looks like a sound system: the item is in a separate >> enclosure with what looks like a speaker and a volume knob. It's labelled >> "cricket". Does anyone on the list have any infor on this item? Power >> requirement, software that uses it etc... > >Its a speech synthesizer speaker box. Unless a Cricket card was made that >could be installed inside the //c (I'm not aware of such a thing although >I won't rule it out) then this box probably went with something like a //e >that did have the speech synthesizer card in it. > >Er, wait a second, I'm thinking of something different. I do remember >reading articles in mid-80s Apple magazines that were advertising the >Cricket. It may very well have been for the //c. > >Try posting this message on comp.sys.apple2. Somewhere there should be >able to help you more than this message. > >Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Don't rub the lamp if you don't want the genie to come out. > > Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0 > See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! > [Last web site update: 02/15/99] >

27 years

The new Amigas

by gareth.knight2＠which.net

Derek Peschel wrote: >You're putting an entirely different slant on what I said. I was under the >impression that the CD32 was a big failure. (Maybe I was thinking of the >CDTV.) Besides, what you said is literally true -- if you except CD-ROM, >then DVD-ROM IS novel. :) Commodore going bust cut the CD32 down in its prime. In the UK it sold the most CD-based software from the time of its release until around August 1994. Admittedly CD sales were not what they are now and it was up against competitors such as the Mega CD, CDi, and PC-CD ROM. >Maybe my lack of real Amiga experience has skewed my perspective. Maybe I >should not post so late at night. :) <PLUG>Hey! Visit my webpage for the complete guide to the Amiga. URL in the sig.</PLUG> >Except for the CD-32 and the CDTV (which IIRC were not that popular, at >least the CDTV) I don't think the Amiga has been released on a set-top box >configuration before. It was not the first time such an idea was proposed for the Amiga. When Escom bought the Amiga in 1995 they licensed the OS and chipset to an American company called Viscorp (now known as US Digital). They hired a number of Amiga personalities, including Carl Sassenrath, to create their "Amiga ED" system. From what I have seen the machine was in a semi-complete stage at the time of Escom's liquidation. There is a brief description of it on my web site- http://www.onlyamiga.freeserve.co.uk/amigaed.html. I've also got some interesting pictures of the machine in action that will be uploaded sometime in the future. Yesterday I mentioned the Siamese PCI card. I've just checked one of my other email accounts and have been told that development has stalled. From what I have heard Amiga Inc have stopped backing the project and there are major concerns about the state of the "Classic" Amiga market (as always). -- Gareth Knight Amiga Interactive Guide | ICQ No. 24185856 http://welcome.to/aig | "Shine on your star"

27 years

Interesting to note about Altairs...

by dogas＠leading.net

-----Original Message----- From: Allison J Parent <allisonp(a)world.std.com> >There are people trying to do windows like/compatable interfaces but >hitting the MS APIs is like shooting at a moving target I guess by this you mean the constant flow of new COM interfaces/controls and extensions... The Win32 SDK itself has been immutably around for quite awhile. - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

27 years

PDP-11 (Qbus) disk question

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<I've got several PDP-11's, all unibus - that use the RQDX2 controller. Impossible! RQDX2 is Qbus. ;) <A friend of mine just came up with a 380mb Maxtor ESDI drive. Will the RQDX <support it? RQDX1/2/3 support MFM not EDSI. It's of no help to you. Two possible choices, find a MAXTOR2190 or find a EDSI controller. Allison

27 years

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test-drb March 1999